X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=fGdJ+6QtmBhBgF1AbhrIL683rO8co1m5rW5LzLQA014 nTOT+xwUg8+7hDZeHQEbQIrex53pOwMJxPtMBzd9nzfqFuiTkPIx//hFCZsBPQ5D 3wadovwbXynSCXKCnU5l5wxyS199SjwYypqxnsg49qzCXvuCplsaiIrH7A9ldYfk = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=wVAUEIVKf/D8lr3f2i6fPoIebAs=; b=edQ0E3QUn3dvLRo9/ zY956YIYWufnb9aHd/WQOWrvZFLurH89UAEbilbOlp/7sA/6uoEnxoKVcgb7lUkQ +yIBy6GeorIo1tkzV5Wfbt+J+WZpIHO118NF+KPpuNpkjjFEzlmEfVZ77cnMlSw+ EFEZJnacIIMCGbcWGmLygD/ZNI= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:sender:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language:x-gm-message-state; bh=XsOLhvmtwEdCZh5NBqH+5aOSyDN7Fu/S0Hbjq3BqcKM=; b=pzxcEnlYEv0MVLfwbE4956cJLrrG67nUk9SwL1l+Amn7fzYSz+agZNn2pCFzJhEGEE jY0FHdhAV7EJ4XTgSxmc1bMLXBpl4uKm+cbFk4LNdBx9FMVA5dlBJY40YYnLMgUvSyAz cYYrwqbchTJ/Nt+fvp1pRPzv6V3utExqso3JYmRpzKmYElA/Fyzt/tS6rmbbeKXVYuKm RVYGQB/19sWZj+RlUikdKB1pbDaUd4bFQEDNhInR5BVsCU5iT/4w2qLYru368hqZoadN vMlbE2JF2WdaWc9PJ4lU+/zscan8WaQdjQYPzU4m04aYKPoNWXrU5Z6XZkNsDEGPFSMQ aeng== X-Received: by 10.68.254.225 with SMTP id al1mr273218pbd.69.1371166802697; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: To: References: <51B63D88 DOT 6000508 AT codespunk DOT com> <774dr8ld62oteq1o8ljpplpuptlleritqe AT 4ax DOT com> <51B8F3E5 DOT 8070000 AT codespunk DOT com> <51BA3488 DOT 5050708 AT cygwin DOT com> In-Reply-To: <51BA3488.5050708@cygwin.com> Subject: RE: pty issue causes 'screen' to hang when run from mintty as detached Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:39:57 -0700 Message-ID: <00f701ce688f$50c14ae0$f243e0a0$@malth.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl4Vp+OpgLUmwFbuFj6l6Vgi2aaxybHJdjOmEOfflr0jl/oK6WfNYx+fdaxl/im0qzIMfDH On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, at 14:07, Larry Hall (Cygwin) thusly quipped: > On 6/13/2013 3:34 PM, Greg Turner wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Matt D. wrote: >>> "the Windows console window you get through cygstart is not [a pty]" >> >> Ah, so /that's/ what I recently read uncomprehendingly! Thanks for >> tracking down this concise explanation. Assuming that's right, then, >> I wonder: what is it? > > What is what? This Windows console? It's... well, it's a... um, it's a Windows > console! ;-) > > But seriously, it's just something different that doesn't conform to the > definition of a PTY. Windows doesn't have PTYs. It uses the console instead. So, no win32-console-specific fhandler exists, and clones of the win32 stdio handles are simply passed through cygwin core to newlib and vice-versa without any funny-business? -gmt -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple