X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=PIqtbjrp21IRUyMoSb4KeJ+s/CClFghYszI1MDN5BA5avYqpMiYEG 95kuzCWtGA7gtjyfIEmq+Tc772xjIxLGhfg3sy7cGbn499eKDvjWH6M1C6o8GApK ilQ2GxZo6d7YuAIARzta4CaSmcPxyvjFy7nra52psefQA34ZGYjzho= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=8XKBHkzZnZrmU0Dm8B4mjtciFZ4=; b=aCuPkBeCF07rgNLd0lAo0S/rG63R QO/HB2COs+q+VIBq8/QGMKJIHIR0hqcEQgctHiiFfnpSNJMPYNMtx/SnmyAGEVkr dgTbZ2wI0VUtndzCe0nYlUi7xnHXxALQVulF2VZ+zf54duY+oXkEF3lDgd0cA2v3 WcJD9wRsHurm+Rg= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:56:32 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: ASLR breaks cygwin Message-ID: <20130607075632.GG13320@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <51B0B1F2 DOT 4090402 AT gmail DOT com> <75109671 DOT 20130606204049 AT mtu-net DOT ru> <51B0C178 DOT 1050605 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20130606172711 DOT GE13320 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51B0E64C DOT 3040602 AT cygwin DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51B0E64C.3040602@cygwin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Jun 6 15:43, Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > On 6/6/2013 1:27 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >On Jun 6 11:06, Warren Young wrote: > >>On 6/6/2013 10:52, Dan Kegel wrote: > >>> > >>>I wonder if we could get them to recognize the parent-child > >>>relationship somehow, and keep the same address space > >>>in the child. > >>> > >>>Just kidding. Hell would sooner freeze over. > >> > >>I don't know about that. For a long time, they had a bigger > >>conflict of interest with Cygwin due to SFU/SUA/Interix and the > >>POSIX subsystem. They announced SUA's doom a couple of years ago[1] > >>and the need for a separate native POSIX API is gone[2]. I even > >>recall reading on this list that Microsoft now recommends Cygwin, at > >>least unofficially. > >> > >>Perhaps Microsoft now has some incentive to create a native fork(2) > >>like call in their OS that Cygwin could use. (Or something close > >>enough, like Linux's clone(2).) > > > >The problem is not the call. Such a call exists, since Vista even > >one with very simple usage. The problem is that this call has > >been created for SUA, and some Win32 libs as well as the console > >subsystem don't work with this call because there never have been > >made provisions for a fork call in the Win32 libs. Chances for > >a change are rather low. > > So I should put away my ice-skates and pitchforks? Wait, was that > a pun? ;-) Sorry, I don't get the ice-skates pun. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple