X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=yERkrHaiweKaEDr3X1m+7LxVHsUPRGMTtxNiqFSuiFJtOiN9USrdd 469+HAeJnlTI6u10iQDXiHfQQXRD8ryVuYEWiUQXCe90c1wu3tV634IGDYG0dIcY tb+9cO+MSCtCQYNffGyPn252iNsQaY+gFm3gGQBpfmIE5gtAZt17Vo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=vg6F9g0ib9dJcLaUI+XwsTX1llw=; b=odvSoI9BmLr5RXpMgkSlXpGonglH qExJtrg6UJF4kDwOmuBOz5MmSwjApXOKKOZsGIsQJ6lsIv3bywAN9yHOsQ0vgs0w CV+tDen0twBw6M7WQyxxPvMAiQdqYVsbEEB/z6dGBKBnFV3OjGdzgfGJfTOva6wa kgzTSbUf5AKy270= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 11:03:26 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Using native symlinks Message-ID: <20130530090326.GJ4471@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20130528185553 DOT GA31309 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20130529083910 DOT GD31309 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20130529152339 DOT GB4471 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20130529170147 DOT GG4471 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On May 29 20:43, Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > On 29 May 2013 13:01, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On May 29 12:40, Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > >> On 29 May 2013 11:23, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >> > On May 29 10:33, Chris Sutcliffe wrote: > >> >> On 29 May 2013 04:39, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > >> > Also, either way, did you logoff and logon so that the "Create symbolic > >> > links" user right can be added to your user token? Note that your token > >> > remains unchanged if you didn't exit from your session. Just changing > >> > the Policy isn't enough, the OS needs achance to create a new user token > >> > for you containing the user right. > >> > >> I've rebooted the machine since making the change and it has had no > >> affect. Is there something else I need to do? > > > > I don't know. I have to try (but not today). Did you try to add the > > "Users" group to the Local Security Policy entry instead? > > I tried adding the "Users" group and it didn't help either. I just tested it and can confirm it. Try this: Start a login session of a normal user after adding the "Users" group to the "Create symbolic links" right. Check the privileges in the user token: $ /cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/whoami /priv PRIVILEGES INFORMATION ---------------------- Privilege Name Description State ============================= ==================================== ======== SeShutdownPrivilege Shut down the system Disabled SeChangeNotifyPrivilege Bypass traverse checking Enabled SeUndockPrivilege Remove computer from docking station Disabled SeIncreaseWorkingSetPrivilege Increase a process working set Disabled SeTimeZonePrivilege Change the time zone Disabled SeCreateSymbolicLinkPrivilege Create symbolic links Disabled On the other hand, in the same situation the UAC-crippled admins's token does not contain the "Create symbolic links" right: $ /cygdrive/c/Windows/System32/whoami /priv PRIVILEGES INFORMATION ---------------------- Privilege Name Description State ============================= ==================================== ======== SeShutdownPrivilege Shut down the system Disabled SeChangeNotifyPrivilege Bypass traverse checking Enabled SeUndockPrivilege Remove computer from docking station Disabled SeIncreaseWorkingSetPrivilege Increase a process working set Disabled SeTimeZonePrivilege Change the time zone Disabled I also changed the "Create symbolic links" policy so that the "Users" group is the only group getting this right. In other words, I removed the "Administrators" group entirely, logged off, logged on, and the result was the same as above. This is a bug in UAC if you ask me. It seems to remove privileges from the UAC-crippled admin's token based on a fixed internal list, totally ignorant of changes in the security policy. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple