X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=Biq6muN N6XVRXBIGNddk7bkQ5g5PuUA6lxO+BBxErjz6uVwcYxxpyBc/SC46vmCW3Yc/wbh s60AFCY7XjdiI//xJ9gIUIy9KGbNbk2ZFbsIYY3JOIeexA9//rtmK2gLoPV7b44Y HeA5uDQxA7elIeF018SPKlVGC3g1DTjHaazE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=default; bh=NVXOf2HCD37n8 P5X83TTkiF8NmE=; b=l72T/Gh31dn0hhvuc0Sh2x5ncpxQAUwi2jnNk74A/8cnP AgB28hY6ykLBegsbpnYn2t6KPz8o3zd5FeyN1VemO88PwXk/MkhMkulimyhWHdu4 jQZlShp7xIR0q3C6KT/puLkA3rxyAW2pud67IdLeUzIP0dGynfZWf83NtNbZv8= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=xMuBw7UrOCtTpnps7FMG6hXW7NGgZRMugtnwJ/LfiWI=; b=FBmny3ut257U01oiDtxXbUYjFq+X1BkRD4iM0RwdFSdz5bZabXSnFjxOPF1+YC0ePR D1WTQkDjU8ClHgHlwcB8tLm42jAueeCxRqpjDs3jp1uGHkbzcE+sXHBH24O2ZBaudEMl VzDxj2VXcRtOzeFEdAowQns49c6U7xnRJmBMh3whla4+bmgm5+9sws/v9NtEi4XdhDbO ybbTrbVbOxII1JG5JztirdqfZ/eLXFjeoCkdWCY0T9KNK57h2kYeYk5+CURo9a6hEzjp 2N28IhBNDszVbiwcpFtZv4LhIpYXa1sI1fDI3LmxeDE6BBcJ3DeKph7MzYgwnybC48iz sYeA== X-Received: by 10.58.45.71 with SMTP id k7mr7976703vem.0.1366285094626; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 04:38:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <805678601 DOT 20130417222136 AT mtu-net DOT ru> From: Richard Gribble Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:37:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: X windows behavior To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkVjrPQZTgoGJfyYp4Wjtj6JjJ71Mvf7+msy+ecesr17p5o0zq9oHVGiCafnW296tS/i9D7 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Lukas Haase wrote: > > On 2013-04-17 11:21, Andrey Repin wrote: > > Greetings, Richard Gribble! > > > >>> I use Cygwin/X on a laptop using a docking station (with the external > >>> monitor the primary display). Cygwin behaves very nasty in two ways: > >>> > >>> 1.) When two monitors are connected, new windows always open on the > >>> secondary monitor. I have to move all of them manually back to my > >>> primary monitor :( Is there a way to avoid this? > >>> > >>> 2.) When not docked, the secondary monitor seems to be used > >>> "implicitely": Some new windows are not visible. Then I realize they are > >>> "hidden" and I can (manually) drag them back to the main monitor. Also, > >>> the "Exiting Cygwin/X"? dialog seems to be opened in an invisible, > >>> virtual area: I just do not see this dialog. Only when I dock the next > >>> time, I see that this windows actually pops up in the second monitor. > > > >> I believe you'll find this is the default behavior with Windows XP and > >> Windows 7 as well. In my experience, the issue is that windows > >> "remember" where they were last, and reopen there. Thus if you had > >> Firefox open in the secondary monitor, reboot (without the secondary > >> monitor), and reopen Firefox, it will reopen on the secondary monitor > >> - and you won't see it. > > Ok, you're only talking about (2). But as I said, this can't entirely be > true. > > Even if I click on the Tray Icon and "Exit", I sometimes can't see Exit > Dialog ("Exiting Cygwin/X")? > > Regarding the first (and more severe issue). I run an application which > uses many windows (Cadence). For nearly each properties-window which > opens, it is placed on the secondary monitor. However, I am mainly > working on the primary monitor (as I use the second only in tablet mode) > so it is very annoying to drag every single window manually to the main > monitor. > > This behavior only happens with Cygwin. For example, when I have Firefox > open on my main monitor and I create a new window, it is created on the > main monitor. > > I tried to use startxwin.exe -- -nomultimonitors. The root window now > seems to cover only the primary monitor, however, the effect still > persists and I can also still drag X windows to the second monitor. This > setting seems to be ignored. > > Thanks, > Luke > > > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > What happens if you open Firefox on the secondary monitor and open another Firefox window? I see a similar behavior (opening new windows on the secondary monitor) under Linux - I believe (though I haven't tested it thoroughly) that it has to do with the geometry. In my case, the main monitor is on the bottom and the secondary on the top. If the default geometry of the window is specified as widthxheight+x+y, then I would expect the window to open on the secondary monitor (as +0+0 would be measured from the upper left). If you have the main on the left and the secondary on the right and the geometry is +/-x-y, the "-" y coordinate would be from the right hand side, or on the secondary monitor. Maybe you've already looked at that, but if not, it might be worth checking. Later, Richard. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple