X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=Kt0iDEKsKTIJ7dzI gQbbQVgdvQ8Jm7ZCb7ZfwwcSro7WiI2Oz8FvP/Cha2ikoxTRVcC/JC7K/3TL2pVV htuB5kUIMBetWNpr4OP5J9/iHaQgyKDX49TBKtQxCViqKKQSJgBAwtK0r85fNthn ipMG8RQG/wp01DsK1ImGUnrc5LQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=B5TwkiB1yHCEnHY35ZvNgj DyY08=; b=bXs9dmq5nE7Bsh9R0Hon7KoKc919F3Q2WUdCZbzwrBBmAZcE8kj01C /xjrG7ya5g12P2NbC0PL9ulGsmxFhbynV2PP+AHw/KgrtRPCiIv6eQk6RWWcsnT1 qq/MbTNajXqPScuCOuPkv6BMEanFdeVJk/axCM2XLPzD1kBaqoDX4= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,KHOP_THREADED,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:31:32 +0400 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: Andrey Repin Message-ID: <583204587.20130412063132@mtu-net.ru> To: Steve Kargl , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Cygwin with clock_gettime and CLOCK_MONOTONIC - gives always 0 In-Reply-To: <20130411230041.GA30988@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <5166A0B3 DOT 70801 AT net-b DOT de> <5166BCA1 DOT 5040204 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411134835 DOT GD18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51670B6B DOT 3000503 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411195200 DOT GJ18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51671EAA DOT 8030901 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411213934 DOT GA30487 AT troutmask DOT apl DOT washington DOT edu> <20130411230041 DOT GA30988 AT troutmask DOT apl DOT washington DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Greetings, Steve Kargl! >> >> * gfortran's example for random_see should be change to not use >> >> system_clock for the random seed. >> > >> >I disagree. The example is just that a short example >> >that demonstrates how to use random_seed. Anyone using >> >that example in his/her code without testing the results >> >in his/her potentially broken environment should not be >> >programming. >> >> That is unfair. Few scientists will know that system clocks are >> an iffy aspect of a programming language, especially as there are >> no fundamental reasons that should be the case. > This has nothing to do with the iffy-ness of system clocks. My > disagreemnet is predicated on the stupidity of using a 10 line > example subroutine without actually inspecting what it does on > whatever OS that one chooses to use. Perhaps, my expectations > for the IQ of scientists is too high. Are you suggesting that > every code snippet in the manual should contain a cautionary > comment of the form: No, I expect a code snippet in manual to produce sensible, reliable and predictable results across the board, especially for such generic cases. > ! > ! This is only an example. Use with extreme caution. > ! -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdaemon AT freemail DOT ru) 12.04.2013, <06:29> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple