X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s=default; b=UU2Q xVZ8HJ86Ho9IXRqH6hQ9cACTgixhWdK+OKSb26Vscw29Ubj+LfoXVI/UBzl3nfVG 8n/rxb9yBBItr9LxFqQob4VrOsUmy3IJ7JXdORiqW7cIUHcDAT5ppte/vdcTydUN heR6K37899GlbBjFLaTbdgenA0JfAsTY9Nn7PZo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=9gTixr1rbP HOmbpBbXeaYCy+4+o=; b=EAovMgXx3J7v+9yiNSkHsItYGAXJpqhtdu56N7i3gs TNnqf8hbqY+oREo21Hr9/ppmVRDeU08frx3QThUbDGostnW76VbLpkqaKuu+4Ox4 iQGNDvnk64M4WE1heG/vwD5DxSwOH7VyKS9iRWpL35ELG2yCbfkAsxzI/qqbtESC w= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:00:41 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: "N.M. Maclaren" Cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, fortran AT gcc DOT gnu DOT org Subject: Re: Cygwin with clock_gettime and CLOCK_MONOTONIC - gives always 0 Message-ID: <20130411230041.GA30988@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <5166A0B3 DOT 70801 AT net-b DOT de> <5166BCA1 DOT 5040204 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411134835 DOT GD18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51670B6B DOT 3000503 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411195200 DOT GJ18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51671EAA DOT 8030901 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411213934 DOT GA30487 AT troutmask DOT apl DOT washington DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:23:42PM +0100, N.M. Maclaren wrote: > On Apr 11 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:35:54PM +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote: > >> > >> * gfortran's example for random_see should be change to not use > >> system_clock for the random seed. > > > >I disagree. The example is just that a short example > >that demonstrates how to use random_seed. Anyone using > >that example in his/her code without testing the results > >in his/her potentially broken environment should not be > >programming. > > That is unfair. Few scientists will know that system clocks are > an iffy aspect of a programming language, especially as there are > no fundamental reasons that should be the case. This has nothing to do with the iffy-ness of system clocks. My disagreemnet is predicated on the stupidity of using a 10 line example subroutine without actually inspecting what it does on whatever OS that one chooses to use. Perhaps, my expectations for the IQ of scientists is too high. Are you suggesting that every code snippet in the manual should contain a cautionary comment of the form: ! ! This is only an example. Use with extreme caution. ! -- Steve -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple