X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=J1kbb 8BqRg5gHstlWxrVSFSPN9A4KX/7nmWtCSlaMI2l2ZFgF8ShvHbZp8rDiic5O9uXE 3yUAByp8xqgQKTeNUG1o8LUWkP5Dg7jnJoSaoVsDT76Wqn+wZwyA4iUOWmahu9TT KIaJTnZ9Ns+5pgT1HQOs9HUMgeInbNYrwz5CfQ= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type; s=default; bh=wn4LZ73XoDe 04jyLKX41PRyqDYg=; b=S8xUXwOUnBcQwxKCPWyryaANqQk75lFmiuMrTfsFnGk Vfz6pjTAL3nOaaErJpRWXx9sd+hhznF8xdhWF5bki7pkDRD6Vfxi05kt00IgY06z FhzF3pfbC5Zq3MoyXD0kj4fm5nwvnGAgx2rtgrQObYb5sELERXcsw+bU4PMXKyP4 = Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_W,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_WL,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Date: 11 Apr 2013 23:23:42 +0100 From: "N.M. Maclaren" To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, fortran AT gcc DOT gnu DOT org Subject: Re: Cygwin with clock_gettime and CLOCK_MONOTONIC - gives always 0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130411213934.GA30487@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <5166A0B3 DOT 70801 AT net-b DOT de> <5166BCA1 DOT 5040204 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411134835 DOT GD18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51670B6B DOT 3000503 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411195200 DOT GJ18333 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <51671EAA DOT 8030901 AT net-b DOT de> <20130411213934 DOT GA30487 AT troutmask DOT apl DOT washington DOT edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Apr 11 2013, Steve Kargl wrote: >On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:35:54PM +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote: >> >> * gfortran's example for random_see should be change to not use >> system_clock for the random seed. > >I disagree. The example is just that a short example >that demonstrates how to use random_seed. Anyone using >that example in his/her code without testing the results >in his/her potentially broken environment should not be >programming. That is unfair. Few scientists will know that system clocks are an iffy aspect of a programming language, especially as there are no fundamental reasons that should be the case. People who have been around for a while will know that, and I can witness that they have been made a complete mess of since the 1960s, quite often preserving the defects of ancient designs in new designs that have no functional aspect in common. But why on earth should any sane person expect that? Regards, Nick Maclaren. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple