X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com
X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 required=5.0	tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,TW_SV
X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org
Message-ID: <50AD20AD.2090908@etr-usa.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:42:53 -0700
From: Warren Young <warren AT etr-usa DOT com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Cygwin-L <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: sqlite3-3.7.13-1
References: <announce DOT 5029275C DOT 4040009 AT etr-usa DOT com> <1353415897 DOT 5592 DOT 4 DOT camel AT YAAKOV04>
In-Reply-To: <1353415897.5592.4.camel@YAAKOV04>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-IsSubscribed: yes
Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm
List-Id: <cygwin.cygwin.com>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:cygwin-subscribe AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Archive: <http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/>
List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com>, <http://sourceware.org/ml/#faqs>
Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com
Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com

On 11/20/2012 05:51, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 10:12 -0600, Warren Young wrote:
>> This is a *test* version which reverts the patch added to 3.7.12.1-1,
>> which caused problems with Subversion as a side effect, particularly in
>> systems using non-Cygwin programs with their svn checkout trees.
>
> And in so doing, removed several APIs which were added in 3.7.12.1,
> breaking other packages which used them once they were made available.
> Compatibility with Windows shouldn't come before backwards compatibility
> for Cygwin packages.

Okay, that makes a second vote for principle in four months.  (The other 
being Corinna's.)  Add to that the original Achim Gratz vote for "Unix 
mode," which carries more weight since it was accompanied by an actual 
example of problems.

Over a shorter period, I've received 16 upvotes on my explanation[1] of 
the problem and its potential solutions.  And, the invitation for 
comment I have at the end of that explanation has elicited no comment at 
all.

All of this tells me that:

a) There are more people negatively affected by the "Unix mode" build of 
Cygwin SQLite than are by building it in "Cygwin mode".

b) There aren't enough people who do care to have SQLite built in Unix 
mode to comment knowledgeably about it.

As far as I'm concerned, Cygwin SQLite will remain built in Cygwin mode 
until Cygwin has a way to conditionally request mandatory locks, so that 
we may have our cake and eat it, too.

If you think I'm wrong, take the package from me, build it your way, and 
deal with the backlash you'll receive as a result.



[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11007024/

--
Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple