X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KHOP_THREADED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <505E4DBE.5050200@tlinx.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:46:06 -0700 From: Linda Walsh User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Win PTY library. References: <20120915162136 DOT GB25529 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <5057036D DOT 3080304 AT dancol DOT org> <5057254C DOT 4040405 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Václav Zeman wrote: > I think that the difference is that PTY is a stream of commands that get > interpreted, OTOH, polled Windows console can provide only a snapshot at > some point in time. It seems that it would be hard to produce faithful > stream of commands from this console snapshot. Because Console2 is only > visualizing the snapshot in its own GUI window, it does not matter that it > is doing that by snapshotting the hidden console. But for the PTY > abstraction, a faithful chain of commands seems necessary. I think that any > such polling based implementation could miss some transitions in the PTY > state in between the polls. ---- I'd have to agree with Václav. If you are using the pty interactively, it won't be problem, BUT programs use pty's to drive other programs, programatically, and rely on "pipe" type speeds to be able to communicate to them. Imagine rsync, which goes over pipes -- if it sprayed through data at full speeds, that only got picked up every 100ms -- i'd imagine alot more than a screen full of data would go by in the transfer. I am working on a program right now that starts a inspection tool then issues commands to it -- I want to be able to query about 100-200K files... if those take even a full ms. each, I'm looking at over 3 minutes. If polling resulted in me getting back results every 10ms, it'd be over a half an hour...way not good. Won't even think about 100ms / result..... tried... now my head hurts. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple