X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: Password prompts for remote system echoing and not attaching Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:41:38 -0700 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <503E592D DOT 6030408 AT cygwin DOT com> <503E6F9D DOT 8040707 AT cygwin DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 8/29/2012 1:12 PM, Earnie Boyd wrote: > Yes, if you prefer to use the Cygwin terminal you must use a Cygwin > client. But you have a choice to use the native terminal with a > Cygwin shell and native ftp client. You could also do the following > if you prefer the Cygwin terminal but do not want the Cygwin ftp > client. > > cmd /c start ftp > > Which will open a native terminal with the ftp client waiting for input. I've been wanting to bring this up for quite some time. I'm well aware of the problem with ptys that cause such problems. For example, when in a mintty terminal (or after having ssh'ed into Cygwin, etc.) when ptys are in use, programs like cleartool (from IBM/Rational Clearcase) and even Windows ftp, will not display a prompt and do things like not turn off echo properly thus echoing the password in the clear. Try running Windows ftp and give it no parms at all. It'll appear to be hung however if you type quit and return you get your prompt back. And nobody really like the dumb windows console window. But I found a terminal emulator that works well. It's called Console . It behaves much like mintty, doing copy and paste correctly, handling window resizing and even does transparency! And in some way this guy (Marko Bozikovic http://sourceforge.net/users/bozho) managed to solve the problem of ptys (maybe just because he doesn't use them). So if you want a pretty good terminal emulator to use instead of mintty that provides similar functionality but doesn't have the "pty problem" you might try Console. -- Andrew DeFaria Why is there only one Monopolies commission? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple