X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org From: "James Johnston" To: "'Cygwin-L'" References: <502C0B7D DOT 10909 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20120816085016 DOT GB5536 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <502CCBB1 DOT 2070600 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20120816105507 DOT GD17546 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <502CE120 DOT 4050900 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20120816122654 DOT GG17546 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <502D1967 DOT 7090705 AT etr-usa DOT com> <20120816160656 DOT M21257 AT ds DOT net> <502D3A5C DOT 7010500 AT etr-usa DOT com> In-Reply-To: <502D3A5C.7010500@etr-usa.com> Subject: RE: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:31:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00ad01cd7bf6$7cc68a50$76539ef0$@motionview3d.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 18:22 > To: Cygwin-L > Subject: Re: Promote sqlite 3.7.13-1 from test status? > > On 8/16/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Wilson wrote: > > is correct, Cygwin is supposed to be a Posix compliant environment > > It's also supposed to interoperate with native Windows programs. > > > If you want to use Windoze tools, why are you using Cygwin? > > First, instant 100 point credibility penalty for being puerile. > > Second, the whole reason for using Cygwin is so you could have a > Linux/POSIX environment *on Windows.* If you have no need for Windows > programs and want a Cygwin-like environment, wouldn't you be running > Linux, or a BSD, or OS X, or Solaris, or...? > > Okay, so you come back saying something about how there should be some > Chinese Wall between the Cygwin and native Windows lands. In that case, I > recommend you install one of the above-named OSes in a VM. It'll be faster > and more featureful. > > I'm actually struggling to come up with a reason why you would *ever* run > Cygwin if you didn't ever want it to touch the native Windows side of things, > or vice versa. I guess it uses less RAM and starts up faster than a VM.... I was just about to start writing a similar message to this, but you did it for me very perfectly! What's the point of Cygwin if it can't play nice with other Windows programs on the system? Go run Linux then! I can point out several well-known distributions that would work fine. The best part is they don't require paying license fees to an operating system vendor. Sometimes I don't understand the antagonism towards interop with native Windows programs that don't do anything unusual and do things by the (Windows) book. It seems like it defeats the point of the project if that goes too far. What's wrong with being pragmatic sometimes? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple