X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: Is the Latest Release of Cygwin supported on Windows Server 8/2012 Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:25:33 -0700 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <000601cd351f$da0e4900$8e2adb00$@motionview3d.com> <4FB6DD43 DOT 9080407 AT users DOT sourceforge DOT net> <4FB707FA DOT 5070603 AT users DOT sourceforge DOT net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120426 Thunderbird/13.0 In-Reply-To: <4FB707FA.5070603@users.sourceforge.net> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 05/18/2012 07:39 PM, JonY wrote: >> I was under the impression that the instruction size matches the natural >> word size of the machine. Therefore they would be 64 bit instructions. > No, we are talking about x86, not MIPS/ARM type RISC. Really? OK - Show me! Because the first mention of even CISC was *your* posting two posts ago. Just because you were talking about x86 does not mean that I was talking about x86. > Which do not apply to CISC CPUs, whatever implementation underneath is > tangent to the user code ISA, the opcodes did not double in size. Please > at least look at the x86 opcode, they are known to have variable lengths. I was not talking about your x86 - you were. >> I still don't understand what having a 64 bit version of ls or grep will >> do for ya... > Since 64-bit mode cannot be avoided, Excuse me but it seems to me that right now it is being avoided quite successfully. Cannot be avoided? Really? > there is simply no reason to keep > legacy mode applications and all that baggage if you can easily rebuild > and move to 64-bit mode. If a 32 bit executable will run on a 64 bit machine, but a 64 bit executable will not run on a 32 bit machine, there's no good justification to have to maintain two different builds and sets of bits. > You don't keep 16-bit programs lying about when there are 32-bit > programs doing the same thing right? When 32 bit just came around, you betcha I did - and so did you. All that said, I'd like to see it all move to 64 bit and I know it will, eventually. But I can understand the rational for not doing it at this time. -- Andrew DeFaria I'm not into working out. My philosophy is no pain, no pain. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple