X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-10.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_PGP_SIGNED,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4FA9A85D.3060305@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 17:12:29 -0600 From: Eric Blake User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: How exactly does ctime work? References: In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB9C86559A482B7A89984E9CE" X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com --------------enigB9C86559A482B7A89984E9CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/08/2012 05:06 PM, Joshua Hudson wrote: > We had a weird incident involving ctime changing unexpectedly when > mtime did not. >=20 > On a normal UNIX system, we'd immediately say somebody changed the > file and set mtime back, but on Cygwin, ctime appears to be synthetic. Not necessarily true. On a normal UNIX system, it is also possible to chmod the file, which changes the ctime but not the mtime. >=20 > How exactly does ctime work on Cygwin? I can't find any useful > documentation except for some mailing list discussions circa 2005 that > leave me with no answers. It operates as much like POSIX requires it to as we can make it behave. In particular, ctime cannot be faked by the user, and is altered any time any other piece of file metadata is modified, including via calls such as chmod. --=20 Eric Blake eblake AT redhat DOT com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --------------enigB9C86559A482B7A89984E9CE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJPqahdAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqOyIH/2zDN3bCMaCWkw8doQhYNP6M FR9HTd9R5KPSXc3oMN88t9Thqo5qICWxreMvOhRov/u4qtetQrUxu11HecjsusBb 6i0cMFHWZqFcaI0tCqGa3Qi+qHvTtO6WcQrFH/vPfNDA1Z/fI6H1h9x+LxsYDcp8 Q3+6EzQWvw0F3hi8skaG4/JzZKew97aVFtjMTun5nmhT+VX7lqK98+4EJ9LDwPtK iBiZLK2Wpl9UB4NYcJWKt2pHmR5nGw/MxK+UlY5hMpABehJMG77pqIGajvnorjz4 6VXvyUHFs//iYt9oZiRbpndo5QvRs/mOLymLUNgA0q3Z5ffUUuMFYdNsYul+Ao8= =2Ue+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB9C86559A482B7A89984E9CE--