X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Trey Greer Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 02:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <4F5D0025 DOT 9040309 AT cornell DOT edu> <4F5D0141 DOT 9060400 AT cornell DOT edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Jack gmail.com> writes: > > Ken Brown cornell.edu> writes: > > > > > Another (easier) thing you could do is try various snapshots between > > versions 1.7.10 and 1.7.11 of cygwin1.dll and pinpoint exactly when the > > problem first occurred. > > > > Ken > > > > > > Sadly, even the oldest cygwin1.dll snapshot (from 7/30/11) seems to have this > issue. There is a pointer on the emacs lists (for MacOS) that says I should > recompile with #define DONT_REOPEN_PTYS to avoid the "inappropriate ioctl for > device" problem. I was hoping to avoid recompiling emacs but I guess I'll give > that a try. :) > > Thanks for the ideas Ken. > > Jack > > Looking through the native (Windows) emacs 23.4.1 source, I don't see how cygwin bash job control could ever have worked. When I do a ctrl-C ctrl-Z (emacs speak for suspend job) in the bash shell in shell mode, emacs gives me the message 'No SIGTSTP support'. Poking through the source, this appears to be because there is no SIGTSTP defined in windows, or at least not in the configuration header emacs-23.4/src/s/ms-w32.h. Emacs in windows does not have PTYS (HAVE_PTYS is not defined in s/ms-w32.h) so shell-mode opens the cygwin bash shell with input and output pipes instead of ptys. A recent change to bash (as of bash-4.1-alpha) causes bash to refuse job control if the controlling terminal is not a tty. See item jj. in the bash-4.0-alpha entry in the changelog bash-4.1.10-4/src/bash-4.1/CHANGES. It looks to me like suspend (ctrl-C ctrl-Z) never worked for cygwin bash within native windows gnu emacs, but I certainly could be wrong. I did try defeating the tty test mentioned above (in jobs.c in the bash source). Indeed, I was able to spawn jobs in the background and kill them. Just no signals from emacs. -- Trey -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple