X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_YE X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse AT dyndns DOT com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18J3EQnj3RmF11oBk8lCCdP Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:43:19 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Re: input delay issues Message-ID: <20120404144319.GB21593@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <1268678816 DOT 345581 DOT 1333548784781 DOT JavaMail DOT open-xchange AT email DOT 1und1 DOT de> <4F7C599D DOT 3080004 AT towo DOT net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F7C599D.3080004@towo.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:24:29PM +0200, Thomas Wolff wrote: >Christopher Faylor wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 09:31:40PM +0200, Thomas Wolff wrote: >> >Am 02.04.2012 22:56, schrieb Christopher Faylor: >> >>On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:46:51PM +0200, Thomas Wolff wrote: >> >>>When input is typed-ahead, on a Unix or Linux systems it will be >> >>>buffered and used as soon as an application looks for it. Try this: - >> >>>Run a slow command (e.g. sleep 5) - Type "abc" while running On >> Linux, >> >>>"abc" will be echoed on the screen (disturbing output if there is >> any). >> >>>After the command terminates, the shell will look for input, find >> "abc" >> >>>and redisplay it properly on the command line. >> >>> >> >>>In the cygwin console, "abc" remains invisible while the command is >> >>>running, but it is redisplayed afterwards. In mintty, "abc" is echoed >> >>>while typed-ahead, but is *not* read and echoed by the shell after the >> >>>command terminates. Only after you then type another character, the >> >>>whole command line is refreshed. >> >> >> >>Yes. The console is a windows device and that's the way that Windows >> >>works. Doing it anyway else would mean keeping a separate thread in >> >>Cygwin and essentially adding back CYGWIN=tty, which we're obviously >> >>not going to do. >> > >> >OK, so there is a clear background explaining the console behavior; >> >however, I described it only for completeness and to compare, the >> >actual problem is with mintty/xterm/urxvt: Input which is available is >> >not being detected - this is likely to be a problem with select() or >> >O_NONBLOCKed read() (whichever bash uses) or both. >> >> You have asserted this several times but I don't believe you've >> provided a test case. >I described: >- in mintty: >- start sleep 3 >- quickly enter "abc" >- wait until sleep terminates >- look at prompt >- type "d" >Isn't that a test case? >I understand an automatic test case, preferably a few lines of C code, >may be easier to handle and analyze; maybe I'll find one. Meanwhile, >this "manual test case" stays available. That's good enough, yes. I missed the mintty above. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple