X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4F72007D.6080503@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:01:33 +0200 From: Christian Franke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME, .) may return an outdated and too high resolution References: <4F6A5D42 DOT 3030108 AT t-online DOT de> <20120322093340 DOT GW18032 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4F6B65A7 DOT 9080605 AT t-online DOT de> <20120326085159 DOT GJ2425 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4F70A0C9 DOT 5060208 AT t-online DOT de> <20120327091051 DOT GB30721 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20120327091051.GB30721@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Mar 26 19:00, Christian Franke wrote: >> Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> I see your point, but what bugs me a bit is the fact that >>> clock_getres(CLOCK_REALTIME) and clock_setres(CLOCK_REALTIME) will >>> always return the same value coarsest, regardless what value has been set. >> If clock_setres was called and succeeded, then clock_getres(.) >> should return the value set before. >> >> If clock_setres was not called, the coarsest value is IMO the only >> value that can be guaranteed. >> >> The actual value returned by NtQueryTimerResolution is simply >> useless in this context: It is the minimum of all resolutions >> currently set by all running processes. It may change at any time. >> There is apparently no way the query the current setting of the >> current process. > Uh, right, I misunderstood. I reverted the change to clock_setres. Sorry, I probably forgot to mention that NtSetTimerResolution returns the same useless actual value than NtQueryTimerResolution. I would suggest: status = NtSetTimerResolution (period, TRUE, &actual); if (!NT_SUCCESS (status)) { ... return -1; } - minperiod = actual; + minperiod = period; >>>> - Unlike on e.g. Linux, CLOCK_REALTIME does not provide a better >>>> resolution than gettimeofday(). >>> We can only use what the OS provides. Starting with Windows 8 there >>> will be a new function call GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime: >>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh706895%28v=vs.85%29.aspx >> This would provide an easy solution for>= Win8: clock_gettime >> returns GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime, clock_getres returns >> constant 1us. > As far as I can tell from a quick debug session, the implementation > of the underlying RtlGetSystemTimePrecise function is based on a spiffy > combination of the standard clock tick with the performance counter. > I'm not very good at assembler debugging, but the essence is access > to some known and some unknown time values from SharedUserData, a > call to RtlQueryPerformanceCounter, and a bit of arithmetic. > > Maybe we can implement something similar without waiting for W8? Does > anybody have code to combine a not so precise clock with a more precise > counter to create a more precise clock? The problem is that unlike the OS we don't have interrupts and probably don't want to start an extra thread which does timer calibrations. It may be possible to implement a clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME) which has the following properties (in most cases:-): - Absolute time returned is in interval [GetSystemTime, GetSystemTime+coarsest) - Differences between two returned times provide the resolution of the PerformanceCounter if the difference is small (tens of seconds). I probably will have some time to check this next week. Christian -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple