X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com
X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-12.1 required=5.0	tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL
X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EACe3T0+rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABDtA+BB4F9AQEBAwESAR0KUQEIGAoGGAdXAQQbGodfBAGfI4EnAZcKjQYQAQwOAkQRBgMChEEFVQcEBwECBQEBAQFRgj9jBIhPn38
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
Subject: Re: Recent upgrade to wish leads to a problem
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:53:16 -0800
Message-ID: <70952A932255A2489522275A628B97C3129F4CE4@xmb-sjc-233.amer.cisco.com>
From: "Matt Seitz (matseitz)" <matseitz AT cisco DOT com>
To: <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm
List-Id: <cygwin.cygwin.com>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:cygwin-subscribe AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Archive: <http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/>
List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com>, <http://sourceware.org/ml/#faqs>
Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com
Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id q21HrYZ5027620

"Yaakov (Cygwin/X)" wrote:
> Using X requires user intervention to start an X server first.  No
> amount of automatic dependencies will change this, and therefore I
don't
> expect that the number of questions would change one iota.

You don't think that Setup telling the user "package xyz requires
package xinit" might at least tip off some users that running xyz now
requires starting an X server?

Even if it doesn't reduce the questions, would it at least reduce the
problem of users now having to run Setup a second time to download and
install the xinit package?

> > In the case of packages that have both a console mode and an X11
mode,
> > perhaps the package could be split into separate packages, as was
done
> > with "git", "git-gui", and "gitk"?
> 
> Can you provide examples of packages for which this isn't already the
> case?

No, I don't have a specific example in mind.  I was just trying to
anticipate a possible objection of "why should we install xinit for a
package that is sometimes used with just a text console?"

--
Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple