X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4F3299A6.7090105@arlut.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:49:58 -0600 From: Jesse Ziser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Documentation on -mno-cygwin Accuracy References: <1328569526 DOT 8848 DOT 3 DOT camel AT YAAKOV04> <4F315473 DOT 8070106 AT gmail DOT com> <4F3180B1 DOT 7090007 AT aol DOT com> <20120207211251 DOT GF32219 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4F31B073 DOT 9010501 AT arlut DOT utexas DOT edu> <20120208055848 DOT GC7184 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> In-Reply-To: <20120208055848.GC7184@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 2/7/2012 11:58 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 05:14:59PM -0600, Jesse Ziser wrote: >> On 2/7/2012 4:14 PM, carolus wrote: >>> On 2/7/2012 3:12 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>>> >>>> There's the usual misconception about the GPL. If you create an >>>> application which is linked against the Cygwin DLL (or any other GPLed >>>> library), but you only use the application in-house, there's no reason >>>> at all to distribute the source code to your collegues. If one of them >>>> really wants it, he can always ask you, right? Only if you provide the >>>> binaries to customers or to the world in some way, you are supposed to >>>> provide the sources codes as well in a GPL-compatible way. >>>> >>> >>> In a publication I have offered to furnish on request the source code >>> and windows executable for a program that I personally run under cygwin. >>> Don't I have to use mingw for the publicly distributed version, or else >>> bundle the executable with cygwin source code? As I understand, simply >>> providing a link to the cygwin web site does not satisfy the license. >> >> Well, if you don't want them to have to install Cygwin, then that's a >> bigger issue than just licensing. Think of Cygwin like an OS. If you >> want to create something that can run under Windows, not Cygwin, then >> you have to build it for Windows, not Cygwin. I don't know that it is >> even possible to simply "bundle" Cygwin with your application. Cygwin >> isn't just some little collection of libraries or something. It's a >> whole system that must be correctly installed on someone's computer. > > Actually, you can easily bundle a program with the Cygwin DLL and have > it work fine. You don't need to install the whole system. That doesn't > mean it's a good idea, however, since your soon-to-be-out-of-date DLL > could cause confusion with an existing Cygwin application. > >> If you really want Mingw (a free compiler and development environment >> for Windows), maybe what you should do is just download and install >> Mingw, and use that, instead of doing it through the Cygwin compiler >> using a barely-supported option. (Then you should get help with any >> problems you have over at Mingw's website instead of here.) > > The MinGW cross-compiles are not "barely supported". They are included > in the distribution precisely so that people can build pure-windows > programs under Cygwin. Oh? Then I got the wrong impression from the documentation and the mailing list when I was trying to work all that out a few years ago. I can't find it now, but I could swear there was something about it being "deprecated" or "partially supported" or something. -- +---------------------------+ | Jesse Ziser, Code Warrior | | Applied Research Labs: UT | +---------------------------+ -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple