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Greetings, Dave Korn!

>>> Windows GUI-based archivers are well known for causing this problem.
>> 
>> To be fair, you should reduce your reference to "WinZIP is known for".
>> At the very least, WinRAR and 7-Zip, both won't try to hold your hand in this case.
>> I don't know about WinACE, though, and I'm not going to check it myself.

>   I haven't checked, but would bet WinRAR and 7-Zip don't accurately recreate
> the posix permissions when they unpack a *nix tarball.  They probably don't
> unpack device nodes right either.  They can probably get softlinks right but I
> haven't tested that either.

I doubt that so much. Neither of them is aware of Cygwin specifics.
But they don't have EOL issues for sure, as they treating files as binary at
all times.

>   Rather than play guessing games about which gui-based unpackers will do a
> good job of unpacking something into a Cygwin environment and have to
> repeatedly re-solve the problems they may cause every time someone says "Oh,
> well you said not to use WinZip, so I used WinRAR (or whatever) instead", I
> just err on the side of caution and simply advise: for unpacking stuff into a
> Cygwin environment, always use a Cygwin-aware tool.

That's right.


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WBR,
Andrey Repin (anrdaemon AT freemail DOT ru) 21.12.2011, <22:47>

Sorry for my terrible english...


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