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Chuck, ping?

On Oct  5 14:23, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 10/5/2011 1:31 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
> >On 10/5/2011 12:27 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>On Oct  5 18:04, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
> >>>Op 4-10-2011 20:20, Corinna Vinschen schreef:
> >>>>On Oct  4 20:03, Erwin Waterlander wrote:
> >>>>>By the way, I noticed that with the default locale C.UTF-8 the
> >>>>>nl_langinfo(CODESET) C function<langinfo.h>   returns wrongly
> >>>>>"ISO-8859-1",
> >>>>Not for me:
> >>>>[...]
> >>>
> >>>My program (wcd) uses gettext/libintl. Libintl is causing the
> >>>effect. Libintl is not working properly with a locale C.UTF-8. That
> >>>is a serious problem.
> >>
> >>That's a bug in libintl8 0.18.1.1-1.  It does not happen with the
> >>previous version 0.17-11.  Hopefully this gets fixed ASAP.
> 
> [...]
> 
> >The other is the issue that spawned this thread, which raised questions
> >about how basefiles::/etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} should behave, and
> >other related complexities.  IIRC we reached an impasse with this
> >subthread (and replies):
> >http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-09/msg00063.html
> >
> >See also the various messages in this thread, during the last day or two.
> >
> >So...I'm rather stuck.  I can't fix anything if we don't have a plan for
> >what the desired behavior IS.  Right now, we all (except for Bruno!)
> >agree that $current_behavior is bad.  But how exactly to fix it -- and
> >whether to do so in opposition to Bruno, the actual libintl maintainer
> >-- is still an open question.
> 
> I think you're mixing two questions that should be kept separate.
> The first is how /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} should set LANG.
> That's a question that the Cygwin developers and/or base-files
> maintainer need to decide.  The second is whether libintl should
> override Cygwin's locale settings.  Isn't the answer clearly no?
> Why can't this be fixed (in opposition to Bruno, if necessary)
> before a final decision is made about /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh}?
> 
> I don't recall any complaints from Cygwin users about C.UTF-8 being
> the default, but there have already been several complaints about
> the new behavior of libintl.

This is *really* annoying behaviour.  Right now the gawk testsuite
fails, because libintl thinks it has to use the german language,
even though $LANG is set to C.UTF-8.

What's even more annoying is the fact that it's not sufficient to revert
libintl8 to 0.17-11, but you also have to revert gettext-devel to
0.17-11 *and* recompile gawk, because the 0.18.1 version redefines
setlocale to libintl_setlocale.  The effect is that applications built
against 0.18 don't run with the 0.17 DLL.  Thus, if you don't have
control over the binary (aka "normal Cygwin user"), you can not even
revert to libintl8 0.17-11, because that may break newly built
applications.

Please consider to provide a new libintl/gettext without this bug soon.


Thanks,
Corinna

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