X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:14:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Divergent file system contents, Cygwin versus Windows 7 From: Andrew Hancock To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id p5QFEYOt032094 I am seeing two different versions of a file depending on how I access it.  Specifically, the file "C:\Program Files (x86)\Vim\_vimrc" uses plain text to provide startup specifications for the text editor gvim.  This is the standalone installation for Windows, not the one the one that comes with Cygwin.  However, that is just the problem context. The real issue is that I see two different versions of that file depending on whether I access it from Windows for Cygwin.  The first version is from before a modification I made, and the second version is from the modification itself (adding the following two lines, the exact meanings of which aren't central to the problem):   set guioptions-=m   set guioptions-=T When I saved the modified file, I got a warning that the file is read-only.  It isn't read-only (for the owner) according to "ls -l" and according to the file's Properties panel pulled up in Windows.  I thought that the discrepancy must have been due to Windows 7's more complicated security (which I haven't completely figured out).  I forced the save with "w!", tested it by restarting gvim, and found that the settings did not take.  I wondered whether the file actually contained the above two lines that I added. It turns out that it depends on how the file is accessed.  If I access the file using notepad or windows-based gvim, the two added lines are not present (same thing if I use Windows's "more" from cmd.exe).  On the other hand, if I access the file using vim or less from cygwin's bash shell, the two added lines *are* present.  I initially didn't recall whether the modification was made from a Windows editor or a Cygwin editor.  However, further testing indicates that it must have been via Cygwin, since the Windows-based gvim merely retorts "Can't open file for writing". After googling about different versions of files on Windows 7, I found that one possible cause might be the backups that the OS makes. However, I confirmed that this particular file has no backups.  This doesn't appear to be the problem. Right now, I am not sure whether this is a Windows 7 problem or a cygwin problem (or more likely, an interaction between them).  I don't want to force both copies to be the same by simply editting the file using the Windows-base gvim.  This hides a problem that will doubtlessly come back and cause great grief.  In fact, after replicating the problem with a copy of _vimrc (Test.txt), I found that the problem is much broader than just edits to a file.  I could delete Test.txt in Windows Explorer and still be able to see and edit it from Cygwin Bash.  In other cases, after a failed attempt to write a modified file from Windows's gvim, the file appears empty from Cygwin's "less" (and can't be overwritten by a bash pipe) even though the content is clearly visible from Windows's Notepad and gvim. Thanks for any comments or suggestions for courses of action.  I'm beginning to wonder if a fundamental incompatibility with Windows 7 (64-bit, in case it matters) could prevent the use of Cygwin on my machine.   Mega- :( -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple