X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,TW_YG,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-Yahoo-SMTP: jenXL62swBAWhMTL3wnej93oaS0ClBQOAKs8jbEbx_o- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:33:44 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: cygcheck's understanding of TZ Message-ID: <20110613153344.GA19880@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20110609094631 DOT 56364lzi64m7t4d3 AT messagerie DOT si DOT c-s DOT fr> <4DF10C13 DOT 3040208 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <811AA35F-E300-46E5-9FE3-EE7D5E58194B AT free DOT fr> <20110609210632 DOT GA1457 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <4E1EF031-A2E0-4238-BD23-5089E2D7670F AT free DOT fr> <20110610142124 DOT GA5849 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <1D852702-CB83-4DAA-A31A-D3F8A01E432A AT free DOT fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:06:46AM -0500, Edward McGuire wrote: >> On 2011-06-10 16:21, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> we still have no idea [...] why you find it so crucial for >>> cygcheck to report the date with pinpoint accuracy > >On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:44, Denis Excoffier wrote: >> Wrong by 1h is not pinpoint accuracy (i think). > >I realize I don't have a vote, but I disagree with your patch. Idiot >proofing cygcheck(1) by forcing GMT on the user is overkill. >cygcheck(1) only gives invalid output when it gets invalid input. >Did cygcheck(1) and date(1) both give valid output with >TZ=CET-1CEST? FWIW, I'm not going to apply the patch. I may think about accepting a patch which displays the current timezone along with the current time or which causes cygcheck to understand Cygwin's TZ usage but there is no reason to force the date to UTC. It's supposed to be the "Current System Time" and that implies that it's the time the user expects when they look at the clock on their wall. I'm trying to be accommodating in case there is a valid concern lurking somewhere here but so far I think this whole discussion is really rather tempest in a teapot-y. cgf -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple