X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4DCAA510.9000909@sidefx.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:02:40 -0400 From: Edward Lam User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Who's using "CYGWIN=tty" and why? References: <20110510211800 DOT CCBDF9D5A21 AT mail2 DOT intersystems DOT com> <20110511063433 DOT GD28594 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20110511063433.GD28594@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 5/11/2011 2:34 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > Kind of weird. The difference is that in tty mode the stdio handles are > pipes, while in the notty case the stdio handles are console handles. > Usually native Windows applications shouldn't see a difference and even > work *better* in notty mode. One problem I ran into was with *Windows mode* applications (ie. MS link.exe option /SUBSYSTEM:windows) trying to detect stdout redirection. I apologize that this takes a bit of explaining first as to why we run into a problem with Cygwin. For Windows-mode applications, _isatty(_fileno(stdout)) will always return false. Due to a bug (in Windows and/or the CRT), the FILE *stdout object will be initialized to a black hole. So if you want printf's to make its way into the redirected file, you have to manually connect the FILE *stdout object to the redirected file output handle. The usual method is to call GetStartupInfo(&info) and check if info.dwFlags has the STARTF_USESTDHANDLES flag set. If it is set, then assume that info.hStdOutput contains the redirected file output handle and attach it with something like: *stdout = _fdopen(_open_osfhandle(info.hStdOutput, _O_TEXT)); So this brings us to Cygwin. When we spawn such a Windows mode app from Cygwin, the method I describe above fails. The call to _open_osfhandle(info.hStdOutput, _O_TEXT) returns with an error value of -1. This is likely why jam reports "the handle is invalid". Personally, when I first ran into this problem, I never realized that CYGWIN=tty would fix it. I did notice that there was a change in the behavior between Cygwin B20 and the Cygwin 1.X releases but I only realize now that this was probably the reason. Regards, -Edward -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple