X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_NEUTRAL,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4D89FEC7.3000107@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:08:07 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Broken autoconf mmap test References: <4D8668C6 DOT 8020500 AT cornell DOT edu> <4D890D95 DOT 6090302 AT redhat DOT com> <4D891A55 DOT 6050601 AT cornell DOT edu> <20110323091921 DOT GB10657 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4D89D4AA DOT 6070903 AT cornell DOT edu> <20110323132622 DOT GM31220 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20110323132622.GM31220@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 3/23/2011 9:26 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Mar 23 07:08, Ken Brown wrote: >> On 3/23/2011 5:19 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> On Mar 22 17:53, Ken Brown wrote: >>>> In case it's relevant, my system is 64-bit Windows 7, with the most >>>> recent cygwin snapshot: >>> >>> It is relevant, but it has nothing to do with Windows 7. Actually, the >>> autoconf mmap test is testing a scenario which does not work on 64 bit >>> Windows systems. Here's what happens in a nutshell. >>> >>> The actual pagesize on Windows is 4K. But there's something called >>> "allocation granularity" which is 64K. If you request virtual memory on >>> Windows, the memory address is always aligned to the allocation >>> granularity boundary. Even if you request 4K chunks, they are 64K >>> aligned. >>> >>> If you mmap anonymous memory, this is no big problem. Cygwin always >>> requests memory in 64K chunks since Cygwin's pagesize is set to 64K. >>> >>> However, if you mmap a file, there's a problem. The mapping always >>> starts on a 64K boundary, but it end on the next 4K boundary beyond EOF. >>> So, for a file of size 1 byte, the memory section will be 4K. The other >>> 60K following in the virtual address space are lost. And they are not >>> allocated. And i you try to access them you get a SEGV. >>> >>> Fortunately, Cygwin uses the native NT calls in mmap. The native calls >>> support a flag called AT_ROUND_TO_PAGE, which allows to allocate memory >>> on a 4K boundary. So what Cygwin does is to mmap the file, and then to >>> request virtual memory rounded to the next 4K page to fill the rest of >>> the 64K allocation area. Now we have the full 64K allocated. >>> >>> Unfortunately this doesn't work on 64 bit Windows. The reason is that >>> the WOW64 layer does not support the AT_ROUND_TO_PAGE flag. If you try >>> to use it, the OS call returns STTAUS_INVALID_PARAMETER. So you can't >>> allocate the remainder of the 64K allocation slot at all. >>> >>> Back to the autoconf mmap test. What it does is to mmap a file of size >>> 1 byte. Then it tests each byte in the mapped page. And since the >>> pagesize in Cygwin is 64K it tests all of 64K. >>> >>> Given the above description, you can now imagine this works fine on 32 >>> bit Windows, but it crashes on 64 bit Windows. >> >> Thanks for the explanation, Corinna. I've reported this to the >> autoconf list. > > Btw., I just experimented with another flag which has not been exposed > to the Win32 API, and which is not officially documented. It's called > AT_EXTENDABLE_FILE and allows to specify a view which is bigger than > the filesize. I tried this on W7-64, and it works. Just not exactly > as we need it. The trailing pages are not commited but only reserved, > so accessing them still results in a SEGV. And while commiting them > allows to run the autoconf testcase, it also changes the filesize of > the file on disk. Oh well. Is the scenario in which the autoconf test fails likely to occur in practice? I wonder if it could be responsible for some of the mysterious crashes that people have reported on 64-bit systems. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple