X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4D7FCF36.5090802@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:42:30 -0400 From: Charles Wilson Reply-To: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Calling sem_wait() in DllMain( DLL_THREAD_DETACH) crashes References: <4D7FB133 DOT 7030301 AT dronecode DOT org DOT uk> <20110315190733 DOT GA23825 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> <4D7FC59F DOT 6030901 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <20110315202816 DOT GA8747 AT ednor DOT casa DOT cgf DOT cx> In-Reply-To: <20110315202816.GA8747@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 3/15/2011 4:28 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 04:01:35PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: >> There are cases where cygwin-ish code does win32-ish things, like >> login.exe, or the PyWin32 extensions for Python-on-Windows(and cygwin). >> Maybe twisty uses PyWin32? > > The python Twisted stuff works on UNIX systems so there should be no > reason to use Windows-isms in Cygwin code - especially when the > Windows-ism *calls* UNIX code. The ability to get into trouble when you > mix Windows stuff like DllMain with Cygwin stuff is very high. Absolutely. >> However, it does seem that python (or one of its extensions) is doing >> something it shouldn't. >> >>From http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682583%28v=vs.85%29.aspx >>> ... > > i.e., "you aren't supposed to be able to call anything you like here" > > i.e., "you can't do that" I was agreeing with you, already. :-) Given that Jon mentioned other, similar reports, involving other libraries/extensions for python...I wonder if there's something in the core of python (e.g. "how to build an extension DLL: this glue code will be included in the xDLL automatically by pyDist::Builder [or whatever], defining a custom DllMain()...") that's doing something windows-ish, when it ought to be doing it unix-ish on cygwin. E.g. I wonder if this is bigger than just Twisted, or just openssl+python/Lib/thread [1,2] etc. [1] http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2008-11/msg00341.html [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/openssl-dev AT openssl DOT org/msg24599.html -- Chuck -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple