X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4D41E579.5080307@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:36:57 -0500 From: Charles Wilson Reply-To: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: cygwin patches for gnulib relocation code [Was: Re: Bug in libiconv?] References: <20110124154158 DOT GA15279 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4D3E3EF6 DOT 7010501 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <4D40E1EB DOT 8030401 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <20110127122015 DOT GA25883 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4D419B91 DOT 7090005 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <20110127170815 DOT GR28470 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4D41BB0E DOT 7020903 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> <4D41D1A1 DOT 8040607 AT redhat DOT com> In-Reply-To: <4D41D1A1.8040607@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 1/27/2011 3:12 PM, Eric Blake wrote: > On 01/27/2011 11:35 AM, Charles Wilson wrote: >> Eric (Blake), you're active on the gnulib list. Care to comment? > > Answering with my gnulib maintainer hat on (and yes, I am one of the > core gnulib maintainers) - Bruno Haible likes to keep cygwin 1.5 > supported in gnulib, and probably will do until at least 3 years after > cygwin 1.7 was first released, since it is still relatively easy to > install cygwin 1.5 alongside a modern cygwin and test patches against > both versions. But Bruno also tends to be the strongest advocate for > back-compatibility; my feel is that most other active maintainers, > myself included, are concerned with what builds now, but not worrying > about porting to an old distro if upgrading to a newer version of the > same distro achieves the same goal. Then again, all this progreloc > stuff that triggered this conversation in the first place is Bruno's > domain, so I can pretty much guess the answer - he'll want to support as > much as possible, if such support is easy to do. That's what I suspected (incl. the bit about Bruno's preferences). > [snip] > > So, answering with my cygwin contributor hat on - it doesn't matter if > we've fixed the bug for cygwin 1.7.8, gnulib will probably want a > solution that works with cygwin 1.7.7 for about the next 3-year window, > as well as a solution for cygwin 1.5. OK, cygwin added /proc/$PID/maps on 2005-01-29, and so was included in cygwin-1.5.13 released on 2005-03-01. Therefore, I think Corinna's changes are fine for upstream gnulib (I'll have a closer look to see if we need to worry about the cygwin_conv_* 1.5-vs-1.7 issue; but I think she removed all uses of path conversion code, by staying solely posix throughout, making that a non-issue). > But that's gnulib's problem, not > cygwin's - don't let it stop us from making progress here. Regardless of how upstream gnulib adapts, I can (and will) patch our *libiconv* package to DTRT (more unix, less win32; avoid deprecated funcs, etc). -- Chuck -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple