X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,TW_VZ,TW_XV X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:31:23 +0000 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:31:23 +0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 188.220.16.49 X-Return-Path: prvs=198501a29f=killing AT multiplay DOT co DOT uk X-Envelope-From: killing AT multiplay DOT co DOT uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <70DEE9F255D04E3AA0E20C6330068D8D@multiplay.co.uk> From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Eric Blake" Cc: "David Mastronarde" , References: <4D234B82 DOT 3000204 AT redhat DOT com> <4D237AA3 DOT 7030807 AT redhat DOT com> Subject: Re: Cygwin-1.7.7: mv appends .exe to directory if matching .exe exists Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:31:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Blake" On 01/04/2011 12:01 PM, Steven Hartland wrote: > It really feels like so called consistency is being enforced over > functionality which is sad as I always though cygwin's goal was to make > Unix look and feel under windows? > > With the Unix look and feel, do you type 'ls file' or 'ls.exe file'? > There would be a LOT of upset users if we didn't do at least some magic > for .exe. It's an unfortunate problem of running on Windows, while > still providing apps that can be invoked from non-cygwin processes (if > we wanted, we could name cygwin binaries with no extension, just as in > Unix, but then native windows apps couldn't easily run them). As acknowledged that's one of required special cases, but when I expand an archive with two files on Unix I end up with two files and not one as in the following on cygwin:- tar -xvzf cygwin-test.tar.gz w/ w/ls.exe w/ls [root AT blade01]/tmp: [root AT blade01]/tmp: ls -l w total 0 -rw-r--r--+ 1 root None 0 2011-01-04 20:42 ls So not only did I loose a file I lost the windows one, not exactly desired behavour. What's even more confusing for the user is that its order dependent so if the tar extracts w/ls followed by w/ls.exe instead of w/ls.exe followed by w/ls you do get both files. This always used to work just fine its only been broken in 1.7. When I raised this when we first identified the problem we where basically told that wasnt a valid use of cygwin so would not be fixed, so I expect this directory problem which stems from the same behavour will be the same as well :( With something like cygwin there are always going to be querks and gotyas but some of the recent "fixes" seem to taking a step backwards breaking otherwise fine uses of this most valuable tool. If anyone's interested in revisting this issue you'll find it under the subject: "tar deletes .exe files on extraction" in the archives. Regards Steve -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple