X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 07:19:47 +0400 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: Andrey Repin Message-ID: <242376891.20101008071947@mtu-net.ru> To: David Antliff , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Looking for experienced CygWin Users In-Reply-To: References: <29894398 DOT post AT talk DOT nabble DOT com> <376593050 DOT 20101006200403 AT mtu-net DOT ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Greetings, David Antliff! > What a disappointing trail of negativity and discouragement. Sure it was. Probably more rough and heavy, than necessary, but if it served the purpose, I feel fine for it. > Isn't the need to create a separate, hopefully more welcoming > environment now painfully obvious? No, and Christopher had already pointed, why. Let me put it down the one more time, hopefully clearing the understanding of some concepts you probably missing. 1. The official support channel is already in place: this mailing list connected to web archive you can search. 2. The quality of the answer to ANY question strongly depends on the quality of the question itself (isn't that obvious?) 3. The lack of quality in question often means the lack of documentation. (We assume that the inquiring person is not a moron) 4. Situation could be improved by improving documentation, obviously. If you have enough spare time to put into web project, you're most welcome. Back to the other issues highlighted in topic: a) Forums. As I said, worst collaboration platform exist. Requires established internet connection to use and generates overwhelming amount of overhead traffic. Also wasting your time shuffling through many intermediate pages (depends on forum layout, loading each page could take from seconds to tens of seconds or more). Easy to start with, however, as the only client requirements is a browser and internet connection. b) IRC. Very good for live chat, when you need to investigate something special and try many different ideas on the go, but not so good if you want qualified answer to your problem. Knowledgeable person is a busy person. He/she usually don't have time to hang in chats. Hence the channel population tend to be weaker. -- WBR, Andrey Repin (anrdaemon AT freemail DOT ru) 08.10.2010, <6:58> Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple