X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100913173648.15137e2d0sfh16o0@webmail.df.eu> References: <4C8E3A4B DOT 8030909 AT cygwin DOT com> <20100913173648 DOT 15137e2d0sfh16o0 AT webmail DOT df DOT eu> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:48:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cygwin instabilities From: mike marchywka To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 9/13/10, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Al was heard to say: > >> I am not asking this to debug my own setup. I am rather ask for an >> overall estimation of Cygwins current and future usability and >> stability. >> > > These two things are related. Remember that Cygwin is an open source > project, and that it does not employ dozens of developers with the > abstract task of increasing usability or stability. Both are increased > by either debugging or at least properly reporting bugs. If you > experience stability problems on your setup, then reporting this in > all necessary detail is a sure step to increase future usability and > stability. > >> It not, how to tweak Cygwin to run on some machines. It's, how big is >> the percentage of windows machines, that will run a stable Cygwin with >> the standard setup.exe setup. > > Who would keep counters of stable or instable setups? These number are > exceptionally hard to come by. Even if this list is now flooded with > "my setup works" and "mine too" posts, these numbers would not be > representative. Users may have given up on Cygwin due to instabilities > without notifying the list. Others may run Cygwin so happily they > never think about joining the list. All you could do is to scan the > Cygwin archives for "instabilities" (this is your term and arguably > far too unspecific) and compare it to the number of instabilities > reported for any run-of-the mill Linux in the same timeframe. I would mention in response to earlier question that I'm quite happy with cygwin on 'doze 7. I routinely build and test mobile phone apps here as well as miscellaneous script based downloads and everything seems fine. The performance issues I reported are fine compared to any 'doze alternatives and so far most of what I have developed under cygwin runs under real linux. And it is a good way to learn linux too LOL. btw, is is possible to do something like the new iproute2 stuff in dohs? > > Just my 2cc > > Markus > > P.S. mine works > -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple