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Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote:
> 
> It's possible, sure.  I expect it's pretty obvious where you might want to
> make such a change in mkpasswd.c if you're so inclined.
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	Inclined is FAR from the issue.

I've tried to build cygwin at least 3 times and never been able to get it to make.
It's a non-starter.  There are no build instructions laying out what is needed to build it.  There seems to be some presumption about what I have in my environment, that just isn't so.  I mentioned it each time, but received no response -- as though I'm just expected to know -- which is the same problem -- assumption of some environment that I don't have.



> 
>> Or are there other programs in windows that would try to print out the same
>> information?
>>
>> I.e. say some variant of the "net" or "netsh" commands"?  On linux, I can try
>> debugging with the 'net' command and it's various outputs, but I don't know
>> what I'd use here to do the same.
> 
> I'm sure.  The APIs in use aren't only for Cygwin.  I don't know of any
> utility that you can use, off the top of my head, that would provide better
> insight than debugging through the code.
----
	I tried a trace (and printed in my last report) of mkpasswd -- but couldn't even see what syscall it was that was failing!  All I got was one of your fellow developer-children that went into some rant about things in my environment that made absolutely no difference to the issue at hand.  Purely a waste of time trying to follow his insulting rant advice.


> 
>> I've tried building things from cygwin before and never had any luck just
>> satisfying the dependencies, so that's been a non-starter for me.
> 
> Perhaps it's time to try again.  In this case anyway, you wouldn't need
> to build more than 'mkpasswd'.  Shouldn't be too hard if you're used to
> building any software.  Sounds like you've done some of this before but
> I may be misinterpreting.
====
	I build software on linux all the time.

I check things out from source as well as from tar modules.  I rarely
have problems building when the prerequisites are spelled out...like
must have 'foobar- headers (or devel package), or must have 'snorpsnip' util
installed...  That wasn't the case when I tried building anything cygwin.  
When I asked about any documentation on such prerequisites, I believe I was told I could submit the documentation I needed myself (or some such verbage) -- which I took too mean "go Fiddle yourself".
:-/

I'm willing to try again if anything has improved.  But there were also issues about me signing off contracts to Redhat or something -- not something normal to most open source projects...and that was a bit of a put off as well.  Has anything changed?

For that matter, does cygwin build on linux, or is that more of a pain?
Since I assume it's a large project, my large build machine is linux, though I've gotten a fairly good Windows machine since last time I tried building.  I hope the make is amenable to "make -j"? 




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