X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org In-Reply-To: References: To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 'cp' utility bug when .exe file exist. X-KeepSent: CB72527D:F8E42EE2-8525773C:0058E3E2; type=4; name=$KeepSent Message-ID: From: RISINGP1 AT nationwide DOT com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:22:32 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com >> I disagree. This seems to me to be adopting the Microsoft policy of doing >> the user's thinking for them: "I don't care what they want - we know >> what's best for them." If a person wants to have "foo" and "foo.exe" in >> the same directory, that should be allowed. A few times getting tripped >> up by the wrong thing executing will be a good life lesson for the person, >> and teach about how different operating systems work to boot. Should I >> create "foo" as an executable, and "foo.exe" exists, then if I want to run >> "foo.exe", I should have to call it out specifically. I can see this >> might cause some confusion should, unbeknownst to the user, "foo.exe" >> exists earlier in the path than "foo", but that would become an >> education on how to use the PATH variable. This confusion arises >> from Cygwin's kowtowing to Microsoft's dubious idea of using extensions to >> control the handling of files. > >If you took away Cygwin's .exe extension handling and just relied on >file permissions like Unix, then using Cygwin tools from a cmd.exe >prompt would become problematic. > >Windows wants that .exe (or .bat or .cmd or .msi, etc) extension and >doesn't give a whip if you chmod a file's permissions +x. Without an >extension, Windows has no idea what to do with the file. > >That's fine if you never do anything with Cygwin commands outside of a >Cygwin shell, but I don't think this is a globally desirable >behaviour. > Just a question: Shouldn't it be up to the user to determine how a file is to be used, and name the file accordingly? If the file is to used only in a Cygwin environment, leave the extension off is desired. If the file is to used in both a Cygwin and a Windows environment, add an extension (like ".sh" or ".exe" or whatever is needed). It is easy enough to teach Windows how to recognize what to do with a new extension (like ".sh"). I am just against operating systems making decisions for the user, or restricting him/her unnecessarily. And, yes, I know that this happens all the time... Phil Rising risingp1 AT nationwide DOT com -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple