X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8,TW_RX,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:23:56 +0200 From: Michael Ludwig To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Unicode/UTF-8 support (MinTTY) - ncursesw - Mutt, Vim Message-ID: <20100607092355.GB3028@wladimir> Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com After having used rxvt without Unicode support for years, the other day I discovered MinTTY, which does support UTF-8 - very nice! The occasional Greek or Cyrillic letters showing up in mails will no longer be displayed as "?" or "??" in the Mutt mail reader, I thought. Same story for editing with Vim. Not quite, though. There are display and editing problems in both programs. From reading, I believe this is due to their being linked to ncurses instead of ncursesw ("w" for "wide characters"), as shown by ldd: $ ldd $(which vim) | grep curses cygncurses-10.dll => /usr/bin/cygncurses-10.dll (0x69580000) $ ldd $(which mutt) | grep curses cygncurses-8.dll => /usr/bin/cygncurses-8.dll (0x6c180000) Is this assessment correct, and complete in that this is the defining reason for the display problems? The wide-character ncursesw was announced in January: This is the first official release of ncurses compiled to support wide characters, and can be installed simultaineously with the "narrow" ncurses package(s). http://www.mail-archive.com/cygwin-announce AT cygwin DOT com/msg03179.html It sounds like Unicode is the preferred way now: Actually, I'd prefer if people started using -I/usr/include/ncursesw and linking against the wide version of the library instead. http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2010-05/msg00465.html People seem to have had success compiling Mutt with ncursesw: http://code.google.com/p/mintty/issues/detail?id=124 Are ncursesw versions of Vim and Mutt imminent? Or is it not going to happen anytime soon? -- Michael Ludwig -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple