X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SARE_MSGID_LONG45,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:19:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cygwin visual brand From: Steven Collins To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 13:36, Klaus Grue <> wrote: > > In conclusion, I suggest a new term is invented such as the > Cygwin Package Manager (CPM) > or something like that. Then one could simply write > Cygwin Package Manager under the Cygwin icon and then explain in the text that: > The Cygwin Package Manager (cpm.exe) can install Cygwin and manage > Cygwin packages. Among other, it can install, uninstall, upgrade, and > downgrade individual packages. It can also install and upgrade the > entire Cygwin system and keep the system up to date. > By the way, it would by nice if CPM could also uninstall Cygwin. It sends the message that you are confident in your system if you make it easy for users to uninstall it. And it smells suspicious to provide software without an uninstaller. I would tend to agree with Klaus on this point. The "setup.exe" name is too generic. If I'm examining my downloads directory with a non-graphical tool (let's say something like "ls" :-) ) then it is not obvious the setup.exe file is associated ith Cygwin. I'm not a fan of "cpm.exe" for two reasons. 1) CPM already has a history as an operating system so using that name would have the potential for confusing the users as well as opening the project to possible trademark/copyright infringement issues. 2) When I'm doing an "ls" of the directory containing "cpm.exe" it is only slightly more obvious than "setup.exe" what the application is. With modern file systems, command line completion, and GUI file managers there is little reason to shorten the name down to its initials. "CygwinPackageManager.exe" communicates clearly what the program is without any further need of explanation. Steven -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple