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From: Dulic Kresimir <kdulic AT chip DOT de>
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Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 18:41:27 +0200
Subject: AW: Computer magazine CHIP asks for permission to distribute "cygwin" on its cover-cd
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Hi & thanks. I indeed missed it.

Kre=B9i
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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Corinna Vinschen [mailto:vinschen AT redhat DOT com]=20
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mai 2010 18:11
An: Dulic Kresimir
Cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Betreff: Re: Computer magazine CHIP asks for permission to distribute "cygw=
in" on its cover-cd

Hi,


In case you missed it, you're writing to a public mailing list.


On May  4 12:40, Dulic Kresimir wrote:
> Dear Sir or Madam,
>=20
> my name is Kresimir Dulic, I work for the German edition of CHIP Magazine=
 (Sold circulation: over 364,000 copies per month; Readership: over 1.63 mi=
llion readers per issue).=20
>=20
> Currently we are writing an article about freeware and in this context yo=
ur really interesting software got our special attention.=20
> As a service to our readers, we monthly provide a CD/DVD on every issue o=
f our magazines.=20
> Therefore we'd like to publish your software "cygwin" in the future on th=
e cover discs of our publications.

The entire Cygwin distribution is 5 Gigs.  How are you going to put this on=
 a DVD?  Are you creating a package selection only?

The setup tool does not automatically provide a method to install from DVD.=
  It's supposed to install the Cygwin distribution from some of the mirrors=
 on the net.  So the alternative is to provide the setup tool only (*with* =
source code) and then let the user install from the net as usual.  But that=
's not very useful for a DVD.

Do you provide support if your users have installation problems?  Or do you=
 point the users to this mailing list?  The latter would not be very nice, =
given that we don't know anything about your DVD and how much customization=
 you've done to make Cygwin's setup doing a DVD install.

> DISTRIBUTION GRANTING
>=20
> 1. The Contracting Party herewith grants CHIP Communications GmbH=20
> (hereinafter "CHIP Communications GmbH") the right to reproduce the=20
> software program  cygwin (hereinafter "Software") on CD Roms and/or DVDs =
of publications of CHIP Communications GmbH as well as to publish, distribu=
te and use it in this context for advertising purposes.
> 2. The Contracting Party may withdraw this granting for all titles of CHI=
P Communications GmbH within two issues notice.
> 3. The Software stated in Item 1 is=09
> 	[  ] Freeware
> 	[  ] Shareware with a running time of ___ days and
> 	[  ] complete functional range
> 	[  ] reduced functional range
> 	[  ] a trial version.

The Cygwin DLL and all the hundreds of packages are NOT freeware, NOT share=
ware, and NOT trial versions.  They are Open Source software, each one with=
 potentially a different OSS licenses from http://www.opensource.org/docs/o=
sd/

As a matter of fact, the majority of the packages require you to provide th=
e source codes of the software as well, preferredly on the same or an equiv=
alent medium on which you distribute the binaries.=20=20

Your "DISTRIBUTION GRANTING" text give me some doubts that you understand t=
he licensing and the implications of providing Open Source software, or tha=
t it is your intent to provide Open Source software at all.  Since the proj=
ect is a collaborative effort, I also don't see how anyone could fill out t=
his DISTRIBUTION GRANTING snippet for anybody else in the project.  Especia=
lly given that it doesn't fit well with Open Source licenses.


Corinna

--=20
Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Project Co-Leader          cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

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