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On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Korn
<dave DOT korn DOT cygwin AT googlemail DOT com> wrote:
> On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote:
>
>> Do you think it should pay attention to the existing installation when
>> it is downloading to an entirely different directory to create an
>> entirely separate installation?
>
> =A0That isn't how local package cache dirs work. =A0The purpose of setup.=
exe is
> to install and subsequently update your installation. =A0The package cach=
e dir
> is just a cache dir, it does not determine which installation you are
> referring to and changing the package cache dir does not mean that you are
> trying to create a new installation. =A0It just means that you are trying=
 to
> create a new package cache dir to work with your existing installation.

I understand that it's behaviour is by design, I'm just saying that
the design is sub optimal.

>
>> The cygwin setup program has some obvious gui design flaws - a two
>> year old can see that. It is a disaster from a usability point of
>> view.
>
> =A0Abusive name-calling is not a bug report. =A0You're just in a bad mood=
 and
> taking it out on the mailing list.

Refer to my earlier mail for the full details of what's wrong with the
gui. To accuse me of being in a bad mood because I point out something
that is blatant and obvious is ridiculous.

>
>> I found it anything but deterministic, producing different results
>> almost every time I ran it.
>
> =A0In between every time you ran it, you changed things. =A0Of course it
> responded differently. =A0You never actually did the exact same thing twi=
ce.
>
>> That means the it's either got bugs, or
>> it's so badly designed that mistakes are almost inevitable, either way
>> it's a fault with the installer.
>
> =A0No, the fault is with you for making guesses at what it does and blami=
ng
> everyone else when you turn out to be wrong. =A0Seriously, your assumptio=
n that
> changing the local package dir is something you do in order to "create an
> entirely separate installation" is a fiction, entirely ungrounded in anyt=
hing
> the documentation claims, and it is the root fallacy that is the cause of=
 the
> disconnect between your expectations and reality.

That wasn't my main problem, I just pointed it out as a rather
undesirable flaw in the installer. I mean, it's a function of the
installer to be able to download a set of packages, but for that to
actually work properly, you have to rename or remove your existing
installation. Seems a bit slapdash to me.

Chris

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