X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org From: "Jason Pyeron" To: References: <4BB8C309 DOT 60704 AT gmail DOT com> <4BB9D42E DOT 40509 AT gmail DOT com> <4BB9E481 DOT 8090706 AT gmail DOT com> Subject: RE: cygintl-8.dll was not found Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:58:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <4BB9E481.8090706@gmail.com> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Sorry for the accidental post a moment ago... > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Korn > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:24 > Subject: Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found > > On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote: > > > No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in > the installer. > > No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully > correct behaviour of the installer in that it pays attention > to your existing installation when you run it, exactly like > it is supposed to. Your persistent misdescription of "not > behaving how I hoped it would despite the behaviour I hoped > for not being documented anywhere" as a "bug" is egregious. > > > I suppose in your world, it's impossible that the installer > has bugs, > > or usability problems as it quite clearly does. > > You have asserted this, but failed to show it so far. > > > So based on the fact that it worked ok for you, then the installer > > has no problems at all, and any problems anyone has with it is the > > fault of the user. Wow, that's a very simplistic view of > software you > > have. > > It's pretty deterministic. If it behaves differently for > you as it does for me, that's because there is something > different either in the procedures we followed or in the > environment on the machines that we are following those > procedures on. This is why absolutely fully-detailed > step-by-step descriptions are essential. Camtasia has a 30 day trial, use it and send the flash video and I will watch it. > > > Dave, I gave you the full description, > > Let me enumerate the points you missed then: > > > This is what I did: > > renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into > > thinking it was a new installation ran setup, selected download > > without installing, from ftp.fit.vutbr.cz I left everything on > > default, and selected additionally vim, openssh, 7z, ping > and rsync, > > by changing to the full view, and searching for the packages The > > download came to 86.4 MB (90,671,910 bytes) > > 1. Didn't mention what you did with the package directory. > You've told me that now, but you still haven't told me when > you deleted it in relation to that sequence of operations > described above. > > 2. Didn't mention any of the directory names you were using > or the me only/all users settings. > > > I then zipped up the download, and copied it over to the computer I > > wanted to install it on. > > unzipped, ran setup on the remote pc, changed from default > to install > > in the top left to install everything, and then installed. > > It all looked fine, when I clicked on the cygwin icon on > the desktop, > > I got the libintl8 error. > > 3. Didn't explain which directory you zipped up, or what the > directory structure was on the machine you transferred it to. > 4. Didn't mention any of the directory names you chose in setup.exe. > 5. Didn't mention selecting "install from local package > directory" or other install mode. > 6. Didn't mention the all-users/me-only setting. > > > After the missing libintl8 error, I went through exactly the same > > process again, and this time it downloaded only 26.6 MB (27,915,820 > > bytes). When I copied that over to the remote pc and tried > to install, > > the installer program displays the 'message no packages > found' in the > > top left. > > 7. No details of how or whether you uninstalled the earlier > attempt and/or the local package directory it left and/or > wiped or reinstalled the whole PC. > > > Dave, I don't need your kind of help thanks. > > Actually, someone who can be bothered to take a couple of > hours of their own time to set up some virtual machines, > reproduce the technique you're attempting and verify that it > can be done, then try and figure out what the differences are > between what he did and what you did, is exactly the kind of > help you need. Thank you. > > Now, let's have a look at the logs: we'll need > /var/log/setup.log and /var/log/setup.log.full files from the > destination machine, please, and on the source machine they > should be in whereever you left the local package directory. > It may still be possible to reconstruct what went wrong. > > cheers, > DaveK > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100 - - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333 Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple