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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:44:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: UTF8 and cvs issues in 1.7.2
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:30:28 +0100 Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Mar 26 00:24, lemkemch wrote:
> > Erik Blake wrote:
> > >On 03/25/2010 05:05 PM, lemkemch wrote:
> > >>  orion> cvs -qn up -l
> > >> U Ãppel.txt
> > >> cvs update: warning: `âppel.txt' is not (any longer) pertinent
> > >> ... I am not talking about the
> > >> displayed characters here but that cvs wants to update a file.
> > >I wonder if the problem is that CVS/Entries was created under one
> > >charset, but you are now using a different charset.  I suppose you  
> could
> > >use iconv to convert the file to the correct encoding.  Or it may be a
> > >sign that cvs has not yet been recompiled to be charset-aware.
> >> Yes, that sort of it is.  Further experiments show this:
> >> CVS/Entries written by 1.5:
> >> /äppel.txt/1.1/Thu Mar 25 22:14:59 2010//
> >> With 1.7 it changes to (module character corruption through e mail):
> >> /äppel.txt/1.1/Thu Mar 25 22:14:59 2010//
> >> The positive is that the cvs update doesn't actually change
> > the file on disk.  All that happens is changing CVS/Entries.
> > Still annoying.
> >> The fix I found is
> >>   setenv LANG C.ISO-8859-1
> >> But somehow that doesn't smell right.
>I explained that a lot in this list and in the User's Guide.  The
> problem is that Windows uses UTF-16 under the hood.  So there's no
> filename based operation without the requirement to convert from a
> multibyte to the widechar charset.

Too bad but I see why that is and that there is no way around it.

> What you can do is either to
> use ISO-8859-1 sort of like above, or you convert the file content
> to UTF-8 so you can use UTF-8 from now on.

The only problem is this file is none of my business.  It's CVS's file.
What does cvs on linux do in this case?

> I'm really sorry that
> this is necessary, but it's really not my fault.

I know.  But anyway, seems to be the way it is.

Michael

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