X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1265730666-259d00070004-w5GHUG X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.10.1.48:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi X-ASG-Whitelist: Sender Message-ID: <018e01caa99f$b9314ab0$aa01090a@amanda> From: "Tomasz Pona" To: References: <00fa01caa970$d351b8a0$aa01090a AT amanda> <4B716FBC DOT 2060109 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: telnet connected but without response Subject: Re: telnet connected but without response Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:50:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Barracuda-Connect: dove2.parasoft.com[10.10.1.53] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1265730681 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam & Virus Firewall at parasoft.com Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Note-from-DJ: This may be spam Charles Wilson wrote: > Bingo! telnet is an inherently unsafe technology which exchanges > passwords in plaintext, where any schmuck with a packet sniffer can see > your password. Combined that with wireless ethernet, and you're just > screaming "HACK ME!". > > If you have ANY choice in the matter, use ssh instead. I'm behind a relatively well maintained firewall and I don't think me and my colleagues should suspect aech other here. ;) It's of course a very slight chance of some fake technician sneaking here and there and connecting to our LAN, but well... sh*t just happens. Out of necessity we're using SSH now, but it looks like telnet is a lot easier to maintain and understand: we had inetd configured already and we had to enable sshd. Obviously ssh-config scripts are doing great job setting defaults, but when reading doc you're immediately attacked by the overburden of information on: - public key generation, - forwarding of the authentication agent connection - port forwarding - pre- and post- authentication - privilege separation and special inaccessible account demand - access rights problems and another special account demand - this and that being an option and a subject for configuration Just reading the docs makes me feel that I probably understand 20% of what is written there (considering the language used) and I immediately tend to love our old good firewall + telnet solution. I'm pretty convinced I'm not alone... Thanks for looking at this Chuck. Regards, Tomasz Pona -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple