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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:10:39 -0500
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On 01/28/2010 03:14 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
> Kazuhiro Fujieda:
>> Andy Koppe:
>>> Another example is X11, which has its own locale system independent
>>> from Cygwin's. There, "ja_JP" implies eucJP already. This means that
>>> with LANG=ja_JP, xterm uses eucJP, while filenames and programs
>>> currently use the system's ANSI codepage, i.e. CP932 on Japanese
>>> systems. Result: mojibake. It does work correctly with
>>> LANG=ja_JP.SJIS.
>>
>> You should set an appropriate alias in locale.aliases.
>>
>> When the i18n framework in X11 was implemented, The default
>> character encoding in the Japanese locale wasn't necessarily
>> EUC-JP. I remember there was a conditional macro in the source
>> of locale.aliases to adjust it about 20 years ago.
>>
>> The default encoding in the X11 locale should be adjusted to
>> the system locale.
>
> That would break things for anyone depending on "ja_JP" meaning
> "eucJP" in X. And CygwinX's locale system has been around for years
> rather than weeks.
>
> Furthermore, there'll be plenty of other programs and people that
> expect "ja_JP" to mean "eucJP", since that's what they get on Linux
> and elsewhere. Cygwin's primary aim is Linux compatibility, and
> Windows interoperability is well-served with "ja_JP.SJIS".

Anybody have a tea pot?  I see a tempest brewing over here and
thought we should have a good place to keep it. ;-)

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A: Yes.
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 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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