X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4B47626B.4060104@fastmail.fm> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:50:51 -0500 From: Raman Gupta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091130 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: 1.7.1-1 noacl on samba share has incorrect directory write bit References: <4B454550 DOT 9020806 AT fastmail DOT fm> <4B454E96 DOT 7060009 AT cygwin DOT com> <4B45739C DOT 4060807 AT fastmail DOT fm> <20100107180214 DOT GP23972 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4B462AFD DOT 8030809 AT fastmail DOT fm> <20100107195022 DOT GQ23972 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4B463D68 DOT 1070906 AT fastmail DOT fm> <20100107200946 DOT GR23972 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <4B46431E DOT 7050101 AT fastmail DOT fm> <20100108103215 DOT GB27916 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20100108103215.GB27916@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 01/08/2010 05:32 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Jan 7 15:25, Raman Gupta wrote: >> On 01/07/2010 03:09 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> I'm talking about the other case. The DOS R/O flag has nothing to do >>> with writability of a directory in the first place. If we treat a >>> directory as non-writable just because the DOS R/O flag is set, we're >>> making a mistake with consequences. The consequences in the opposite >>> case are much less problematic. >> >> Right -- which is why I suggested gating this using a "dro/nodro" >> attribute so that it could be turned on by users of noacl samba >> mounts where it would be correct to turn it on -- I suspect noacl >> samba mounts are widely used and would benefit greatly from this as >> EACCES would be correctly returned in many situations in which it >> currently isn't. > > Show me an example. The actual permissions are so that your actions > already return EACCES. I don't see lots of a win which would rectify > another mount option. Here is a simple foundational example -- assume "foo" is a non-writable directory on an smbfs share mounted with noacl, using the default samba share options: $ if [[ -w foo ]]; then echo "writable"; else echo "not writable"; fi; writable which is of course incorrect as the directory is not actually writable: $ touch foo/bar touch: cannot touch `foo/bar': Permission denied Another example is copying (with perms) from a noacl mount to an acl mount. The permissions of directories copied to the acl mount should be non-writable (and would be with the dro option) but currently the permissions on the acl mount are incorrectly set as writable: Assume the following mounts: //s/a on /mnt/acl type smbfs (binary,notexec,user) //s/a on /mnt/noacl type smbfs (binary,notexec,noacl,user) C:/cygwin on / type ntfs (binary,auto) Share "a", again using the default samba options, contains a non-writable directory called "foo": Now run: $ mkdir /tmp/from_acl; mkdir /tmp/from_noacl $ unison -auto -batch /mnt/acl /tmp/from_acl [...] $ unison -auto -batch /mnt/noacl /tmp/from_noacl [...] $ ls -l /tmp/from_acl total 0 dr-x------+ 1 Raman Gupta None 0 2010-01-08 11:36 foo $ ls -l /tmp/from_noacl total 0 drwx------+ 1 Raman Gupta None 0 2010-01-08 11:36 foo With the dro option, the latter would correctly remove the write bit on foo in /tmp/from_noacl. Cheers, Raman -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple