X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4B403628.6000505@cygwin.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:16:08 -0500 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090320 Remi/2.0.0.21-1.fc8.remi Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.21 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Appropriate expectation on the degree of cygwin and MS interoperability References: <004c01ca8ada$ecdb5060$c691f120$@calgacus.com> In-Reply-To: <004c01ca8ada$ecdb5060$c691f120$@calgacus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 01/01/2010 07:06 AM, Neil DOT Mowbray AT calgacus DOT com wrote: > I suppose at its core the question is about the intent of cygwin. Is > it (1) to provide unix like capabilities to a MS platform (in which case > one would expect/demand a high degree of interoperability), or > (2) to provide a unix like island inside a MS platform? > > The problem with (2) is one cannot really stay isolated from the > host MS environment. The goal of the project is to provide tools and an environment with a Linux look and feel. That's what's stated on the Cygwin home page. This is done in the Win32 environment (which should be a key tip-off as to Cygwin's ability to handle x64 stuff) so it is largely inter-operable with other Win32 programs. However, it seeks to provide a Linux view of things and where this conflicts with Windows, then the Linux view trumps. Path handling is a good example here. > My previous question of how/if one can use cyginw *.h *.dll *.a > artifacts in a MS compiled program is essentaily the same theme > although I have lower expectations that it is possible. You don't want to do this, just like you really don't want to use MS *.h, *.dll, and *.lib in Cygwin compiled program (typically). Doing so breaks the "Linux view" of things. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple