X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: Looking for the 'stdout' of a Windows application Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:52:07 -0700 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <26769438 DOT post AT talk DOT nabble DOT com> <4B2557EC DOT 5070506 AT gmail DOT com> <26770209 DOT post AT talk DOT nabble DOT com> <4B257717 DOT 4070503 AT gmail DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 In-Reply-To: <4B257717.4070503@gmail.com> X-Stationery: 0.4.10 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On 12/13/2009 04:21 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > Ghastly top-heavy over-engineered UML-laden bloatware that comes with > its own non-standard filing system does tend to make me do that ;-) Clearcase does not use UML - nor UML laden bloatware AFAICT. Perhaps you're thinking of Rational Rose. The "non-standard filing system" you refer to is call MVFS and it's for MultiVersion File System and only used if you use dynamic views. You can use snapshot views where not MVFS is involved. MVFS is a good idea if used correctly IMHO. Clearcase is indeed a complex system and is not for everybody but it does indeed have it's place. Marc, in general, the problem is that cleartool is written for Windows thus uses /dev/conout and anything that employees a pty will swallow your prompt as Windows just doesn't understand ptys. This includes things like xterm, rxvt, and even Cygwin console windows if you've ssh'ed somewhere. I do recall using a piece of Windows freeware I believe called Terminal which worked well with Cygwin and ptys by apparently doing all the I/O in the background the Windows way and presenting it to Terminal properly. If you need I could ask a friend what that software is as I don't have access to it anymore. -- Andrew DeFaria Big Bang is just a theory, while God is just a baseless claim. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple