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According to Jim Reisert AD1C on 11/6/2009 11:38 AM:
>> In particular, --time-style in an alias, or TIME_STYLE in your
>> environment, is your friend.
> 
> Thanks, Eric.  I tried this but could not get what I wanted:
> 
> LTDENA-REISERT:c/Home> ls -al --time-style="posix-long-iso"
> 
> -rwx------  1 reisert        Domain Users    3326 2009-10-30 12:51 .XWinrc
> -rwx------  1 reisert        Users            663 2009-02-26 10:37 .Xdefaults
> 
> From the info link you sent me, it says:
> 
>     `posix-STYLE'
>           List POSIX-locale timestamps if the `LC_TIME' locale category
>           is POSIX, STYLE timestamps otherwise.  For example, the
>           `posix-long-iso' style lists timestamps like `Mar 30  2002'
>           and `Mar 30 23:45' when in the POSIX locale, and like
>           `2002-03-30 23:45' otherwise.
> 
> I must not be in a POSIX LOCALE, then.  LC_TIME isn't defined,  nor is LOCALE.

Correct - if LC_ALL, LC_TIME, and LANG are all undefined, then you are in
the C.UTF-8 locale (cygwin's default), which, since it is not "C", is not
_the_ POSIX locale.  Likewise, if LANG is en_US.UTF-8, but LC_ALL and
LC_TIME are unset, then you are in the en_US.UTF-8 locale, which is not
the POSIX locale.

> 
> How do I make this work, while maintaining:
> 
>     LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Well, did you try setting LC_TIME=C?  That would mean that LC_TIME is then
POSIX, overriding LANG; and as long as LC_ALL is unset, then that would
make the difference.

Or, you could use

TIME_STYLE='+%b %e  %Y
%b %e %H:%M'

to force the POSIX interpretation regardless of locale.

- --
Don't work too hard, make some time for fun as well!

Eric Blake             ebb9 AT byu DOT net
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