X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkAAJPq30p5LIQZ/2dsb2JhbAAIkUi4PYg9iG+EPwQ Message-ID: <4AE04F0E.1070500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:24:46 +1100 From: Chris Cormie User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Cygwin package manager References: <4ADC06C1 DOT 6030909 AT gmail DOT com> <19pud5hlpni90a7b54r6vgimod8c7brlis AT 4ax DOT com> <4ADFF621 DOT 8040401 AT gmail DOT com> <1g60e59q82lgk6dosv2ptod1neqvs3d68c AT 4ax DOT com> In-Reply-To: <1g60e59q82lgk6dosv2ptod1neqvs3d68c@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com > There's no maturity requirement as such. For a package such as cyg-apt that > doesn't exist in other distros, you have to get 5 positive votes from current > package maintainers. A clear explanation of what cyg-apt does that setup > doesn't, would probably go a long way towards that. Thanks for that, I'll work on the manpage and the case for cyg-apt vs setup. I think they are natural partners actually: setup shows you what's available, and works outside Cygwin, with Cygwin shut down. cyg-apt is strongest when you know what you want and provides package management without closing your Cygwin window. > If you think the software needs more testing before it should go into general > release, then you can release it as a "Test" release, as described at the above > URL. The disadvantage is that it won't be visible in setup unless people click > on the "Test" radio button at the top. You can still ask people on this list to > test it. Hmmm. >> If you do wish to experiment with using cyg-apt's wider functionality in >> an automated context my first thoughts are: >> >> * run cyg-apt from Windows, rather than inside Cygwin to reduce the >> number of packages cyg-apt can't manipulate to the bare minimum (cygwin, >> coreutils). See the wiki for more info. > > Anyone who tries to uninstall Base packages from within Cygwin, gets what they > deserve. > > I suppose though, that you'd run into trouble trying to upgrade Python, or > certainly Cygwin, from cyg-apt running in Cygwin. What you get is a polite warning that: [python cygwin base-cygwin coreutils bash zlib libreadline] can't be changed from within Cygwin and cyg-apt exits. Cheers, Chris -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple