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Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:13:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: William Sutton <william AT trilug DOT org>
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Subject: Re: ps -ef difference linux/cygwin (arguments)
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Let's try this one again, and maybe we can be civil instead of 
condescending and insulting?

There are certain expectations of UNIX and UNIX-alike environments, 
particularly core commands.  When I move from Solaris to AIX to HP-UX to 
Linux to Cygwin, I expect commands to perform in fairly similar ways.  I 
understand that in some cases, vendors like to be different (HP-UX and df, 
for example, or the entire GNU suite compared with AT&T or BSD UNIXes). 
In that respect, I expect ps to behave more or less the same across 
environments.  I should not have to "know" in advance when I jump to a 
different platform excatly what the officially accepted replacement is to 
do a particular task.

Sure, I can alias a command; I've done so many times.  However the point 
you missed in your arrogant dismisal was not my particular memory, UNIX 
skills, etc., or those of an entire group of users.  The point is that if 
Cygwin differs on a core command from standard UNIX procedure and has 
another command designed to accomplish the same functionality but not part 
of the generally known set of core UNIX tools, then maybe Cygwin should 
change to conform to the known and accepted standards of doing things.

Regards,

William Sutton

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:52:27AM -0400, William Sutton wrote:
>> That's a nice answer for a command that works, but, speaking for myself
>> and a lot of other people who use cygwin for the UNIX-like utilities
>> (like the OP), we shouldn't have to remember one-off command names to
>
> Maybe you and your memory-challenged ilk should invest in memory
> improvement drugs.  Vitamin B12 is supposed to provide some benefits.
>
> Or, you could invest in a book on beginning UNIX commands so that you
> could figure out how to alias procps to ps.
>
> cgf
>
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