X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:03:57 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: 1.7: Problem with Vista64b ACLs and sockets Message-ID: <20090417100357.GE5200@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <49E7764B DOT 7080700 AT veritech DOT com> <20090417094415 DOT GC5200 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <49E851D1 DOT 4050107 AT cwilson DOT fastmail DOT fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49E851D1.4050107@cwilson.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-02-20) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Apr 17 05:54, Charles Wilson wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > > Cygwin's ping uses raw sockets. Using raw sockets is only allowed > > to administrative users since Windows XP or so. So Cygwin's ping > > is not very useful for a long time. When you're running under UAC, > > you don't have admin privs, unless you start the shell with "run as > > administrator". > > > > I still think we should remove ping from the distro. In its current > > form it's not very helpful. > > I wonder if it's worth trying to rework some of the ping internals to > use the ICMP dll. If you do that, you can ping without Admin privs > (this is the way FPing does it). Yes, sure, but in that case, why not use the native ping? AFAIK the ICMP API doesn't provide all the data you need to emulate the usual UNIX ping output anyway. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/