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Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> Hmm, looks very interesting, I'll give it a try and report back to the
> class.  I've been looking for a replacement for my preferred terminal
> emulator, MedicineTTY, for quite some time. ;-)

Each to their own. I actually prefer PeaTTY.

> 1.  Good work.

Thanks!

> 2.  Super fast.

That's entirely due to Simon Tatham's excellent PuTTY code. PuTTYcyg,
which has a different pty backend with a separate helper process, is
just as fast.

> 3.  Cut and paste in a Unixoid terminal for Cygwin finally conforms to
> Windows norms (AKA "The One True Way").  That alone is worth it.

Careful, I think you might be a bit controversial there. :)

> 4.  I wasn't getting color from ls, but that appears to be a
> termcap/terminfo/wrong-bash-invocation issue, as your screenshots clearly
> show color support.

Yep, that sounds like a bash invocation issue. If no command is provided
on the command line, mintty invokes the current user's default shell
from /etc/passwd without additional options, i.e. not as a login shell.
It's the same for rxvt and xterm.

Cygwin's bash scripts are designed for login shells only though, i.e. if
you want a proper setup you'll need to either provide a suitable
/etc/bash.bashrc or ~/.bashrc, or invoke the bash within mintty as a 
login shell:

   mintty bash -l

The shortcut created by create_shortcut.js will do just that.

> 5.  It needs a regular Windows installer.

That does seem a little bit unnecessary when all that's needed is the 
exe, but I suppose that quite a lot of users would appreciate the 
convenience of just double-clicking an installer.

> 5a. I'm good with Windows installers.  You want I should whip one up for
> you?

That would be great, since I haven't got a clue about how to do that.
Ideally it would be a .msi that installs just the exe and the readme
into %PROGRAMFILES%\MinTTY and puts a shortcut to the exe directly into
Start Menu\Programs.

Cheers,
Andy

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