X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: un-indenting doesn't work with vim Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:49:20 -0700 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <20080711130135 DOT GO24644 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20080716155746 DOT GR24644 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <17393e3e0807170141v6dcc5088kc1d23ab59653a24e AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mark J. Reed wrote: > I think you're missing the point. > > Out of the box, on a Linux system, the backspace key works as > intended. Period. You had bogus configuration stuff in your .vimrc, > which is not Linux's fault. No you're missing the larger point. This is Cygwin - not Linux, though I know that Cygwin is closer to Linux than other Unix's. Linux generally has backspace pretty well configured out of the box as you say. But many other Unix's don't. IMHO Solaris is the worse offender in my experience. In general however it's only Unix who has particular problems with the backspace key. No other key demonstrates as much trouble. Rarely, if ever, does "a" not generate an "a" character. Nor "b" generate "b" and so on. It's only the backspace key and only on Unix's. Try as you may that statement, that simple fact says something to anybody who is open minded and who's not immediately defensive and throwing out excuses. > So it sounds like you're complaining about the fact that it's possible > to screw up something so fundamental as the backspace key in the first > place. Yes I said that... and more. Again, other keys do what their key caps say - just not backspace. Why is that? > But since people do still log into Linux systems on serial consoles, > the ability to deal with backspace keys that aren't necessarily the > one on the attached USB keyboard is still valuable. The type of keyboard is irrelevant really. If it says backspace it should go backward a space. It should act like backspace does for 99% of the other OSes out there. There should be no surprise as to what the key's function is and the key should function properly and normally as it it labeled. If anybody should be inconvenienced here it should be much more the few using antiquated equipment than the masses using the equipment of th e day - don't you agree? -- Andrew DeFaria If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/