X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:50:40 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, "Mark J. Reed" Subject: Re: configuring the backspace key, etc. (un-indenting doesn't work with vim) Message-ID: <20080718135040.GA12258@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, "Mark J. Reed" References: <1216369565 DOT 12256 DOT ezmlm AT cygwin DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:16:40AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: >On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Jay wrote: >>While Andrew's tone is a bit strong/rude, I do agree. The keyboard >>should just work. > >And it does. Andrew had a misconfigured vim setup that was getting in >the way. > >>PC keyboards have been for a very long time now. > >Yes. But, again, you're not always on the local attached keyboard when >interacting with a Linux system. > >Admittedly, even when not local, 99.9% of the time you'll be using some >sort of VT100/ANSI terminal emulator, so a lot of the flexibility of >the termcap/terminfo system is overkill at this point. But the >underlying abstraction - no matter how you are connected, it looks like >a tty to the host software - is still valuable. > >>>That's the price of using stuff without understanding it. Oh man. >>Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.. > >Fair enough. But I do at least try not to blame "the system" when I >screw something up because I didn't know what I was doing... Thank you Mark. I think you have put your finger on the basic problem which started this tedious discussion. This thread veered away from anything to do with Cygwin a while ago. Lets please move on now. If there is still a need to express disappointment with the way UNIX handles ttys then please find another forum. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/