X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <470FEC1D.6050202@cygwin.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:50:21 -0400 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070505 Remi/2.0.0.0-3.fc4.remi Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: stupid question about user/groups shown with ls -l and ls -ln References: <31b7d2790710121443h24c049d4ydc96260c1d07a3d AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> In-Reply-To: <31b7d2790710121443h24c049d4ydc96260c1d07a3d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > If I run ls -l from /cygdrive/c it shows pagefile.sys as > ---------- 1 ???????? ???????? 1595523072 Oct 12 10:43 pagefile.sys > > I hate seeing the little '?' in my ls output. Normally, I just do ls > -ln and look up what user name and group the SSIDs match with. > > However, with pagefile.sys you get this instead > ---------- 1 4294967295 4294967295 1595523072 Oct 12 10:43 pagefile.sys > > WTF? That makes no sense. > > That big number corresponds with FFFF FFFF in hex or the biggest > 32-bit integer (around 4GB in the 2 to the X naming convention for GB > -- sorry I can't bring myself to gibibyte). I learned something new > today looking that up. Everybody knows 655535, but I'd never seen > this one before. > > Is this ls's way of saying it has no idea? Does Windows actually > provide a value that internally corresponds to this number? > > Incidentally, getfacl comes up with the same value (not surprising). > > Thank you! pagefile.sys is locked by the O/S. Cygwin tries to open files to determine if they're executable, etc. Because it's locked, it can't get this and other info. So what you're seeing are the defaults when no information can be found. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/